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    Default Memory frequency?

    Hi, this is my original setup:

    Pentium IV 2.0
    Chaintech Apogee 9ejl1 (supposedly handles up to PC2700 RAM)
    2x 256 MB DDR 266
    GeForce Ti 4600
    and so on...


    Now I bought 2 sticks of 512 PC2700 (hence 333) and, since the memory frequency is at 100 by default, i get serious issues trying to boot up. Now, when I change the frequency to 166, it boots up ok and the system SEEMS stable, but it reverts back to 100 on the next boot and all those isues inherent to that. What is most strange is that, when i change the frequency to 166, during bootup says 192 MHZ (where does that nš come from?).

    does any1 know how to put the frequency permanent so that I don't have to go into the bios every time? (and oh yes! I do save the settings ;)

    thanks guys.

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    Default Re: Memory frequency?

    its because that P4 processor is at 100mhz FSB and memory has to be running 1:1 with FSB on that system. You wouldve been better off getting DDR200 which runs at 100mhz stock, or upgrading the cpu if possible, im not sure what that board supports though

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    Default Re: Memory frequency?

    Your motherboard supports thus:

    Intel Pentium 4 1.4GHz ~ 2GHz mPGA 478 CPU Willamette
    Intel Pentium 4 2.0GHz ~ 2.4GHz mPGA 478 Northwood (400FSB)
    Intel Pentium 4 2.2GHz ~ 2.66GHz+ mPGA 478 Northwood (533FSB)
    Intel Celeron 1.7GHz+ mPGA 478 Willamette-128 (400FSB)

    I must also add that this is a very nice looking board and seems to be top of its kind back when it came out.
    Last edited by Amd_Lover2004; 11-27-2004 at 06:29 AM.
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    Default Re: Memory frequency?

    In that case a CPU upgrade wouldnt be a bad idea for him, specially if a P4 3.06 533FSB with hyperthreading works in there...along with the dual DDR333 it would be better than my system.
    Last edited by sr4470; 11-27-2004 at 06:38 AM.

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    Default Re: Memory frequency?

    Yes some nice PC 2700 will work fine if you get a new processor.... if not try some DDR 200.... that should work fine.

    Aslo you could try to overclock your CPU to 133 FSB and the memory may automaticly say I need to be at 1:1 and may do so. And if the if the memory doesent do it your motherboard has all the fetures you need to make it work by doing the same to the mem settings.
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    Talking Re: Memory frequency?

    the funniest thing is that my old DDR 266 seems to be working fine on the 100 mem frequency (wouldn't it have to be on 133?).

    Yah, this board was a breakthrough at the time, it had everything the asus didn't have and it was cheaper, too bad for the AGP 4x though.

    I'm definitely doing a CPU upgrade then, but now I'm confused... does this board take a P 2.66 Ghz or 3.06 as maximum.

    Thx again ppl. This is the first forum I've found that ppl actually care to help hehe

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    Default Re: Memory frequency?

    Your memory will work fine just not to its full potential. It will also create a bottleneck, If run at 100MHz.

    I remember reading about this board when it came out and I dont think it can handle anything with HyperThreading. But I could be wrong.... I'd say the 2.66 533 FSB Northwood would be your best shot.

    About the people here, as I have also found the people here accualy care about helping as long as you know what you are talking about and research before you post a reply... For the one or two exceptions I find there to be many nice people here.
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    Default Re: Memory frequency?

    PC2700 should be all that system can handle, but it will revert to 100MHz since you're most likely using a 2.0A which will run at an FSB of 100. Like AMD_Lover said, the memory will run at 100 MHz on a 1:1 ratio, and there's not really much reason to have it do otherwise as it won't mean any significant performance change.

    If the board supports processors with HT, then a 3.06GHz with HT wouldn't be a terrrible idea. For an option with budget more in mind, a 2.8A, if the board can take Prescotts (which I doubt, but I haven't looked at any info on it), or a 2.8B if it can't (the Northwoods seem to be more expensive ATM).

    BTW, if it's gaming performance you're looking for, upgrading your video card might be a good idea (a better one, even), A Ti 4600 is going to hold you back in games, assuming you even use this machine for gaming.
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    If you get a beter video card you might want to save your money after and get a better CPU as well because that 100MHz is going to limit a lot of things quite a bit.

    Can you say bottleneck...
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    Default Re: Memory frequency?

    No doubt, but I'd rather have a 9800 Pro and a 2.0A than a Ti 4600 and a 3.06 for any graphical game out there. But I will agree that a 400MHz FSB processor is a huge bottleneck in games if you have a decent video card, but then gaming might not even be an issue here anyway.

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