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    Cool Wazzaram

    To prevent any more hijacking of maedar's thread(by me)

    Ill try n cut it short.
    I only have sandra for testing purposesAIDA locked out .
    In sandra
    present ram
    9-9-9-24 1T 1333 bw 18gb/s 1.55v

    10-10-10-28 2T 1600 21gb/s 1.61v

    I dont think its going to run at a higher speed than that ,unless loosening out to 12's or something.

    The samsung ram ,well AIDA gives different readings to Sandra.

    See this article:

    Samsung 8GB 30nm DDR3 1600MHz Memory Kit Review - Overclocking Fun! - Legit Reviews

    That guys tweaking gives somewhere around the AIDA scores you posted,different timings/v but same speed .
    Theoretically Your setup now should give around 25-26 gb/s in Sandra.Would you be able to test n see if it does.. thx :), just wondering if the upgrade is worth it.
    If I had bought 1600 ram originally,it might not be and due to postage costs from UK etc I could go ahead n get some gskill 2133 stuff,admittedly at 11 timings for a lower price.

    Either way I suppose Id have to sell the 1333 stuff :(
    Last edited by kick; 01-11-2013 at 03:12 AM.
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    Asrock p67 Extreme6.............. Gigabyte EP-45 UD3 ...................... Gigabyte 73 PVM S2
    Intel i5 2500k 4.8ghz................ Intel Q8400 3.8ghz......................... Intel D820 2.8ghz
    Zalman 10x cooler.................... Coolermaster V8............................ HP cooler
    8GB Gskill ripjaw ddr3.............. 4GB Gskill PI ddr2.......................... 4GB samsung ddr2
    60GB ssd/500GB HDD .............. WD 1TB hdd.................................... Seagate 160GB hdd
    GTX 460 1GB x2 SLI ................. Msi 9600GT 512MB(died) ........... Onboard gx
    Win7 64 ,750w psu(ocz)............ Win7 64 ,520w psu,seasonic...... Win XP pro ,400w psu

    HEC 6A34 case . ....................... Jeantec R2 case............................ Packard Bell case

    hoping to upgrade to http://www.thinkgeek.com/stuff/41/habicase.shtml
    http://www.flixya.com/video/140325/Animal-launching

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    Default Re: Wazzaram

    link me to the software and ill run a benchmark for you,ive never used sandra before
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    Intel i7 3770k 24/7@4.8ghz 1.38v Turbo llc +0.165v dvid multithreading enabled
    Samsung Green(MV-3V4G3D/US) 8GB @2133mhz 9-10-10-21-1t 1.55v
    Thermalright Silver Arrow Cpu Cooler
    1xSamsung 840 pro 256 Gb SSD windows 8.1 pro 64bit
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    Razer Lycosa Keyboard
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    Xfx Pro 750w silver rated Psu 80+
    Fractal Arc Midi Case

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    Default Re: Wazzaram

    its showing 28gb per sec,in that test you linked to he got 26gb per sec

    Gigabyte z77x UP4-TH F11c Modded Bios
    Intel i7 3770k 24/7@4.8ghz 1.38v Turbo llc +0.165v dvid multithreading enabled
    Samsung Green(MV-3V4G3D/US) 8GB @2133mhz 9-10-10-21-1t 1.55v
    Thermalright Silver Arrow Cpu Cooler
    1xSamsung 840 pro 256 Gb SSD windows 8.1 pro 64bit
    1xSamsung f4 HD204UI 2tb hard drive Storage
    Powercolor 7970 3gb V3 @1150mhz core/1700mhz mem,1.150v Accelero aftermarket air cooler 55c max
    Razer Lycosa Keyboard
    Logitech X-530 5.1 Speakers
    Lite-On iHAS124-19 24x Sata DVDRW
    K-World Hybrid DVB-T 210SE Digital T.V Card
    L.G E2260V L.E.D 1920x1080 Monitor
    Xfx Pro 750w silver rated Psu 80+
    Fractal Arc Midi Case

    http://i38.tinypic.com/14myvfa.jpg x58 ud5 <=3.8ghz + 4.2ghz Overclock Template!!
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    Default Re: Wazzaram

    Great: merci,
    nice figs seems v good.

    Sandra isnt as usefull as AIDA.or free everest as it used to be!, but it stays freeware :)

    My two horrible low speeds ,or at least low bandwidth , are on the bottom,2nd from the top is what I thought was the green samsung , but its some other variety running at 1866.
    The top one is some sandy E ,those extra cores make nice figures :) whether youd notice it in rl dunno

    oh yeh gb/s :)

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    editIf I get the memory , Ill use a new sig "Samsung Green is People!", if no one gets the ref.,no worries
    Last edited by kick; 01-11-2013 at 08:05 AM. Reason: 1am edit.
    Current Systems:

    Asrock p67 Extreme6.............. Gigabyte EP-45 UD3 ...................... Gigabyte 73 PVM S2
    Intel i5 2500k 4.8ghz................ Intel Q8400 3.8ghz......................... Intel D820 2.8ghz
    Zalman 10x cooler.................... Coolermaster V8............................ HP cooler
    8GB Gskill ripjaw ddr3.............. 4GB Gskill PI ddr2.......................... 4GB samsung ddr2
    60GB ssd/500GB HDD .............. WD 1TB hdd.................................... Seagate 160GB hdd
    GTX 460 1GB x2 SLI ................. Msi 9600GT 512MB(died) ........... Onboard gx
    Win7 64 ,750w psu(ocz)............ Win7 64 ,520w psu,seasonic...... Win XP pro ,400w psu

    HEC 6A34 case . ....................... Jeantec R2 case............................ Packard Bell case

    hoping to upgrade to http://www.thinkgeek.com/stuff/41/habicase.shtml
    http://www.flixya.com/video/140325/Animal-launching

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    Default Re: Wazzaram

    1. That green ram seems to be around the best performing 2133 capable stuff Ive seen

    2.My memory when I bought it 2 years ago was the equivalent of 58 good 2133 stuff was probably double that price then.The Samsung green I could buy for that price now and less.

    Unfortunately ,cos of the system design(mine I mean,and my usage,general and games, I wouldnt see that much of a performance diff,memory measurements alone,or even used for a combination readout arent as relevant as on older systems).,maybe the equivalent of another 100 mhz in cpu clock speed?, a couple of frames per sec in games or something.
    Cost to me say 51 inc postage to here..maybe get 15 if lucky after ebay commision on my present ram..At present cpu clock,not much rl difference,of course it might help get a higher cpu clock at a lower voltage,sustained, but thats a bit of a gamble.
    Ill update if any change.
    Current Systems:

    Asrock p67 Extreme6.............. Gigabyte EP-45 UD3 ...................... Gigabyte 73 PVM S2
    Intel i5 2500k 4.8ghz................ Intel Q8400 3.8ghz......................... Intel D820 2.8ghz
    Zalman 10x cooler.................... Coolermaster V8............................ HP cooler
    8GB Gskill ripjaw ddr3.............. 4GB Gskill PI ddr2.......................... 4GB samsung ddr2
    60GB ssd/500GB HDD .............. WD 1TB hdd.................................... Seagate 160GB hdd
    GTX 460 1GB x2 SLI ................. Msi 9600GT 512MB(died) ........... Onboard gx
    Win7 64 ,750w psu(ocz)............ Win7 64 ,520w psu,seasonic...... Win XP pro ,400w psu

    HEC 6A34 case . ....................... Jeantec R2 case............................ Packard Bell case

    hoping to upgrade to http://www.thinkgeek.com/stuff/41/habicase.shtml
    http://www.flixya.com/video/140325/Animal-launching

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    Default Re: Wazzaram

    it does run higher on my z77,2200mhz i havnt really tried for mor but performance in aida64 tends to drop off after 2133mhz for me so thats where i keep it at
    Gigabyte z77x UP4-TH F11c Modded Bios
    Intel i7 3770k 24/7@4.8ghz 1.38v Turbo llc +0.165v dvid multithreading enabled
    Samsung Green(MV-3V4G3D/US) 8GB @2133mhz 9-10-10-21-1t 1.55v
    Thermalright Silver Arrow Cpu Cooler
    1xSamsung 840 pro 256 Gb SSD windows 8.1 pro 64bit
    1xSamsung f4 HD204UI 2tb hard drive Storage
    Powercolor 7970 3gb V3 @1150mhz core/1700mhz mem,1.150v Accelero aftermarket air cooler 55c max
    Razer Lycosa Keyboard
    Logitech X-530 5.1 Speakers
    Lite-On iHAS124-19 24x Sata DVDRW
    K-World Hybrid DVB-T 210SE Digital T.V Card
    L.G E2260V L.E.D 1920x1080 Monitor
    Xfx Pro 750w silver rated Psu 80+
    Fractal Arc Midi Case

    http://i38.tinypic.com/14myvfa.jpg x58 ud5 <=3.8ghz + 4.2ghz Overclock Template!!
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    Default Re: Wazzaram

    I thought Id post up this sandra compilation
    cpu speed is either 4.8 or 4.9ghz in each case, Top 3 are 4.9.

    The top 3 in the graph are my new 1600mhz rated mem and it hasnt been fully benchmarked,Id be fairly sure the xmp 1600mhz profile would be fine.
    Voltage on the 1600mhz mem is 1.5v in all cases

    Voltage on the 1333mhz is 1.545 at 1333mhz and 1.61 v at 1600mhz.

    I havent gone "tweaking" the new memory cos I need to bench it ,and also considering the perf diff in real terms between the memory speeds is less than what is shown:
    even at 2133 speed the perf inc with timing variations n voltage change might not be worth it :0.

    Still at least I do have 1600 out of the box memory and the profile is read to v and timing specs.

    Bah just noticed,the mem speed doesnt show in the screen shot
    Top is 2133
    2nd is 1866
    3rd is 1600
    4th is 1600
    5th is 1333

    Wazzaram-mem-compare-jpg
    Last edited by kick; 01-17-2013 at 06:10 AM.
    Current Systems:

    Asrock p67 Extreme6.............. Gigabyte EP-45 UD3 ...................... Gigabyte 73 PVM S2
    Intel i5 2500k 4.8ghz................ Intel Q8400 3.8ghz......................... Intel D820 2.8ghz
    Zalman 10x cooler.................... Coolermaster V8............................ HP cooler
    8GB Gskill ripjaw ddr3.............. 4GB Gskill PI ddr2.......................... 4GB samsung ddr2
    60GB ssd/500GB HDD .............. WD 1TB hdd.................................... Seagate 160GB hdd
    GTX 460 1GB x2 SLI ................. Msi 9600GT 512MB(died) ........... Onboard gx
    Win7 64 ,750w psu(ocz)............ Win7 64 ,520w psu,seasonic...... Win XP pro ,400w psu

    HEC 6A34 case . ....................... Jeantec R2 case............................ Packard Bell case

    hoping to upgrade to http://www.thinkgeek.com/stuff/41/habicase.shtml
    http://www.flixya.com/video/140325/Animal-launching

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    is that the gskill memory you bought at 2133mhz? looks good if it is,what dram voltage with 2133mhz?
    Gigabyte z77x UP4-TH F11c Modded Bios
    Intel i7 3770k 24/7@4.8ghz 1.38v Turbo llc +0.165v dvid multithreading enabled
    Samsung Green(MV-3V4G3D/US) 8GB @2133mhz 9-10-10-21-1t 1.55v
    Thermalright Silver Arrow Cpu Cooler
    1xSamsung 840 pro 256 Gb SSD windows 8.1 pro 64bit
    1xSamsung f4 HD204UI 2tb hard drive Storage
    Powercolor 7970 3gb V3 @1150mhz core/1700mhz mem,1.150v Accelero aftermarket air cooler 55c max
    Razer Lycosa Keyboard
    Logitech X-530 5.1 Speakers
    Lite-On iHAS124-19 24x Sata DVDRW
    K-World Hybrid DVB-T 210SE Digital T.V Card
    L.G E2260V L.E.D 1920x1080 Monitor
    Xfx Pro 750w silver rated Psu 80+
    Fractal Arc Midi Case

    http://i38.tinypic.com/14myvfa.jpg x58 ud5 <=3.8ghz + 4.2ghz Overclock Template!!
    http://www.youtube.com/user/warren304#p/u Visit Me On Youtube

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    Yeh running 4.9 Ghz its the 1600 stuff 8-8-8-24 xmp profile at 1600
    I did the 1866 and 2133 at 1.50v too,
    I just put in 10-10-10-27 for 1866 cos if it worked at 8's for 1600 thought should be ok at 10's for 1866,booted up fine.did a qwik benchmark.
    Go ram .so loosened off to 29 for 2133..no windows

    loosened down to 10-11-11-29 and then into windows.seemed ok , so did the sandra bm..just rough n ready testing.. it might not even last 2 min in prime ;)

    I suppose with a bit of v or timing adjust ,it might bench stable ,but hey at least I now have mem that boots over 1600!
    Current Systems:

    Asrock p67 Extreme6.............. Gigabyte EP-45 UD3 ...................... Gigabyte 73 PVM S2
    Intel i5 2500k 4.8ghz................ Intel Q8400 3.8ghz......................... Intel D820 2.8ghz
    Zalman 10x cooler.................... Coolermaster V8............................ HP cooler
    8GB Gskill ripjaw ddr3.............. 4GB Gskill PI ddr2.......................... 4GB samsung ddr2
    60GB ssd/500GB HDD .............. WD 1TB hdd.................................... Seagate 160GB hdd
    GTX 460 1GB x2 SLI ................. Msi 9600GT 512MB(died) ........... Onboard gx
    Win7 64 ,750w psu(ocz)............ Win7 64 ,520w psu,seasonic...... Win XP pro ,400w psu

    HEC 6A34 case . ....................... Jeantec R2 case............................ Packard Bell case

    hoping to upgrade to http://www.thinkgeek.com/stuff/41/habicase.shtml
    http://www.flixya.com/video/140325/Animal-launching

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    Just on that xbit article I linked and tRFC from the post in Asrock forum.
    I loaded in 96 for it seems to be fine.. but not much diff ;)

    2143mhz benches out ok.I left in 1.53v..might as well.

    The pic..the green text is the cheap 1333mhz ram which wont go faster than 1600.. at least not at cas 10!
    The red text is the 1600 stuff which will do 2133.
    The interesting aspect is the point at which both sets are running at 1600 at approx the same cpu speed..4.8-4.9.

    The genuine 1600mhz memory is a full 2 cas settings faster at 1600, but in performance terms you wouldnt notice.Dram speed(with the same cpu speed) seems to be king even with loose timings.

    That xbit article..since Im stuck at 2133(ish)..and 2500 memory is around 120 and 2800 memory is around 250 with 1.65v and timings of 13 and 14! perhaps yours will not only bench better but actually perform better..since AIDA is thread limited?

    nb the actual ss is at 100.05 bclock 4.82ghz cpu and 2143 memory(stable for me) but thats about it in terms of a reasonable speed/fan noise and temps

    As a matter of limited interest..Got 5.1 ghz up with a 100base clock..the bandwidth was running about 29gb/s at 2133..hey I thought maybe ill do a ss..but no lets be realistic..bench a little first

    1.57v+ and 95-96C core temps within a minute, I cancelled the test rapidly! ,I decided to pass on the 29gb/s screenshot as being just a tad unrepresentative

    Wazzaram-somespeed-jpg
    Last edited by kick; 01-28-2013 at 11:13 PM.
    Current Systems:

    Asrock p67 Extreme6.............. Gigabyte EP-45 UD3 ...................... Gigabyte 73 PVM S2
    Intel i5 2500k 4.8ghz................ Intel Q8400 3.8ghz......................... Intel D820 2.8ghz
    Zalman 10x cooler.................... Coolermaster V8............................ HP cooler
    8GB Gskill ripjaw ddr3.............. 4GB Gskill PI ddr2.......................... 4GB samsung ddr2
    60GB ssd/500GB HDD .............. WD 1TB hdd.................................... Seagate 160GB hdd
    GTX 460 1GB x2 SLI ................. Msi 9600GT 512MB(died) ........... Onboard gx
    Win7 64 ,750w psu(ocz)............ Win7 64 ,520w psu,seasonic...... Win XP pro ,400w psu

    HEC 6A34 case . ....................... Jeantec R2 case............................ Packard Bell case

    hoping to upgrade to http://www.thinkgeek.com/stuff/41/habicase.shtml
    http://www.flixya.com/video/140325/Animal-launching

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