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  • USB3 - Ivy Bridge - Haswell

    Hello to you all,

    This is my first post on the forum.
    Normally I communicate much better in French.

    I participate with the same user name on:
    Official GIGABYTE Forum - Index

    I see, read and try to answer as best I can to request help.

    But I'm modest. I prefer to consultation with others.
    I see that there is a strong link between your forum and forum.giga-byte.co.uk.

    USB3 - Ivy Bridge - Haswell

    Considering the following information: - The beginning information.

    Extract:
    Through an official Product Change Notification (PCN) Intel has now confirmed that there really is a problem and that a solution is being worked on.
    ...
    This solution will affect the delivery dates of certain products, and according to the PCN that includes the Z87, H87, Q85 and Q87, the C222, C224 and C226, and the QM87, HM87 and HM86.
    Source of extract:
    Intel officially confirms USB 3.0 bug in Haswell [Updated with Intel statement] | Hardware.Info United Kingdom
    Intel officially confirms USB 3.0 bug in Haswell : buildapc

    Extract:
    The company (Intel) indicates the issues will not impact the release of the Haswell processor series, but it is of the intention of resolving this problem in a future processor stepping.
    Source of extract:
    USB 3.0 problems for Intel's Haswell | Hardware.Info United Kingdom


    New hardware revision required to fix Haswell's USB 3.0 issues:
    New hardware revision required to fix Haswell's USB 3.0 issues | Hardware.Info United Kingdom
    Extract:
    In order to solve the issues though, a new chipset revision would be required. Intel describes the problem as a 'nuisance', and will fix it in a future chipset revision.

    Considering the following information: - End of information.

    Description of the situation:
    On the forum forum.giga-byte.co.uk, I see, I read several posts (topics) to the effect that the USB3 ports do not work at all. Otherwise, at a minimum, they work really bad.

    (I might add that is essentially the same thing is happening with Sandy Bridge.Many problems with the USB3 ports.)
    But I will not insist on Sandy Bridge in my message.

    About Ivy Bridge. I see the same thing on several other forums. Very serious forums.

    User expectations.

    Others wonder if it is the fault of the USB drivers provided by the Gigabyte website.

    They wonder if it is better to use the drivers developed by Intel.
    However, they do not know which are good for the Z87.
    Me too, because this problem - situation.

    (And Z77 chipsets where appropriate in the case of Sandy Bridge)

    Many computer users expect that if the parameter settings of the current Bios provided by Gigabyte website is changed it will resolve the situation.

    Other computer users expect that Gigabyte developed a new Bios. They hope that this will resolve the situation.


    Questions I ask.

    I am wondering whether to also avoid installing utilities that are in link with the USB ports and especially USB3 ports.
    Like:

    I know he necessary to install APP Center (Intel 8 series) before all other utilities in the following list:

    On/Off Charge™ / On/Off Charge™ 2 (Intel 8 series)
    USB Blocker (Intel 8 series)
    EZ Setup (Intel 8 series)
    EasyTune (Intel 8 series)

    Questions about the Bios. - The beginning

    Do you recommend that I propose to user computer to flash their bios.
    If so, under the assumption that I suggest they flash the bios, the following facts are they valid:
    I put an example:

    New bios for Gigabyte Z87X-OC -F5L
    Source: http://forums.tweaktown.com/gigabyte...beta-bios.html
    Z87XOC.5l.7z

    Backup BIOS reflash:
    ALT+F10 - UEFI BIOS

    Thank you greatly ex58

    =======================
    Or use @BIOS (Intel 8 series)
    GIGABYTE - Support & Downloads - Utility - Motherboard

    Can you tell me what's really better to do.

    Tuto here:
    How Do I Update My BIOS?


    Questions about the Bios. - End

    I think I'll wait for your comments before further development.
    I do not want to lose through an uninterrupted flood of text.

    If you have a How to, a manual, a guide, a tutorial that can help me to provide good answers, effective for the USB3 ports work on the Ivy Bridge platform via the Z87 or H87 for example ... let me know ...

    I can not how to thank you for your estimable help.

    Gloup_Gloup
    Last edited by Gloup_Gloup; 06-13-2013, 11:10 AM.

  • #2
    Re: USB3 - Ivy Bridge - Haswell

    Hi and welcome to forum.

    Is not first time INTEL release product with "bugs" (P67.... B2=>B3).
    So far for Z87 system, is noted as you described in your post (USB3), plus bug with some of SSD (Sandforce controllers not recognised).
    Not much we can do about that part,only updating with latest drivers (BIOS) and wait for INTEL to pass solution.

    For BIOS flashing,I prefer Q-Flash.
    As new info appear, will be posted in our forum.

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    • #3
      Re: USB3 - Ivy Bridge - Haswell

      Hi stasio,

      Thank you very much for your answer.

      I desire to have a link on this subject .... when there will be a'' new''.
      Last edited by Gloup_Gloup; 06-13-2013, 01:05 PM.

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      • #4
        Re: USB3 - Ivy Bridge - Haswell

        I think I read somewhere the new boards wont be out untill July/August
        Main Rig
        Gigabyte z87x-OC
        Haswell i7 4770k - 4.7Ghz @ 1.330v LLC Extreme (L310B492)
        G.Skill F3-1700CL9D-8GBXM DDR3-2133mhz 9-11-10-28 1.65v @ 2800mhz 12-14-14-35 1.7v
        Samsung Green 8GB 2x4GB MV-3V4G3D/US DDR3 1.3v 30nn @ 2200Mhz 11-11-11-32 1.60v
        Sapphire ATI HD 7970 3GB clocked 1200MHz @ 1.181v.
        HiS ATI HD 6950
        Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD (boot Drive) on Intel sata3 controller port0
        Corsair Force GT 120 GB Sata3 SSD on Intel sata3 controller port1
        Samsung 320GB HD322GJ 7200 RPM 16M cache on Intel sata3 controller port2
        Sony Optiarc DVD-RW AD-7240S on Intel sata3 controller port5
        CORSAIR CMPSU-850TX PSU
        Swiftech MCP655-B Pump
        EK Supremacy Cpu Block
        Swiftech Mcres Micro Rev 2 Reservoir
        Black Ice GTX Xtreme 360 Radiator




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        • #5
          Re: USB3 - Ivy Bridge - Haswell

          Welcome to the forum.
          I'm not having any USB 3.0 problems. I don't use USB drives, however, just peripheral stuff like KB, mice, camera etc.
          Maximus 8 Hero/6700K @ 4.8/4x4GB LPX @ 3200 15-17-17-36 CR1
          Case Labs SM8 w/dual pedestals / Custom water w/ acrylic pipe / Light box
          PowerColor 390Xw/EK block / Samsung 840 Pro 256GBx2 RAID 0 / 128GBx1 SSD's | 3 HDD's / DVD burner
          Dual Aquaero 5 Pro controllers for pumps & fans / FC9 for led's only 2xD5 pwm w/Bitspower tops - MCP35x2 - 3x480 rads/1x240 rad/AP15 fans / EK supremcy
          Seasonic Platinum 1000w custom fabbed/sleeved psu wiring by me

          Wifes: Z77X-UD5H / 3770K w/c with Raystorm copper block & 2 Rads/ Kingston HyperX RAM / Switch 810 case/ PowerColor AX7950 w/EK block
          HTPC: Z68 Pro3 M / 2105

          SOLD:Z97X-UD5H /4790K/F11b mod BIOS/[email protected] 4x4GB Kingston Genesis KHX24C11X3K4 2400 RAM 11-13-13-30
          SOLD:Z87X-UD5H /4770K

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          • #6
            Re: USB3 - Ivy Bridge - Haswell

            I believe the issues with resuming from sleep where 8 out of 10 drives did not recover from sleep. My system hardly ever sleeps so I probably wont ever see the issue.
            Main Rig
            Gigabyte z87x-OC
            Haswell i7 4770k - 4.7Ghz @ 1.330v LLC Extreme (L310B492)
            G.Skill F3-1700CL9D-8GBXM DDR3-2133mhz 9-11-10-28 1.65v @ 2800mhz 12-14-14-35 1.7v
            Samsung Green 8GB 2x4GB MV-3V4G3D/US DDR3 1.3v 30nn @ 2200Mhz 11-11-11-32 1.60v
            Sapphire ATI HD 7970 3GB clocked 1200MHz @ 1.181v.
            HiS ATI HD 6950
            Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD (boot Drive) on Intel sata3 controller port0
            Corsair Force GT 120 GB Sata3 SSD on Intel sata3 controller port1
            Samsung 320GB HD322GJ 7200 RPM 16M cache on Intel sata3 controller port2
            Sony Optiarc DVD-RW AD-7240S on Intel sata3 controller port5
            CORSAIR CMPSU-850TX PSU
            Swiftech MCP655-B Pump
            EK Supremacy Cpu Block
            Swiftech Mcres Micro Rev 2 Reservoir
            Black Ice GTX Xtreme 360 Radiator




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            • #7
              Re: USB3 - Ivy Bridge - Haswell

              Yeah. Well, like I say I don't use USB storage except sticks for flashing/moving programs etc. Sleep is something I've pretty much been using the last 6 months on a regular basis. At first I couldn't seem to get sleep to work on Z87, then it did. Not sure what's up with that yet but time will tell. Probably related to whatever problems I was having with my Samsung SSD's seemingly not being recognized properly but that seems to be cleared up.
              Maximus 8 Hero/6700K @ 4.8/4x4GB LPX @ 3200 15-17-17-36 CR1
              Case Labs SM8 w/dual pedestals / Custom water w/ acrylic pipe / Light box
              PowerColor 390Xw/EK block / Samsung 840 Pro 256GBx2 RAID 0 / 128GBx1 SSD's | 3 HDD's / DVD burner
              Dual Aquaero 5 Pro controllers for pumps & fans / FC9 for led's only 2xD5 pwm w/Bitspower tops - MCP35x2 - 3x480 rads/1x240 rad/AP15 fans / EK supremcy
              Seasonic Platinum 1000w custom fabbed/sleeved psu wiring by me

              Wifes: Z77X-UD5H / 3770K w/c with Raystorm copper block & 2 Rads/ Kingston HyperX RAM / Switch 810 case/ PowerColor AX7950 w/EK block
              HTPC: Z68 Pro3 M / 2105

              SOLD:Z97X-UD5H /4790K/F11b mod BIOS/[email protected] 4x4GB Kingston Genesis KHX24C11X3K4 2400 RAM 11-13-13-30
              SOLD:Z87X-UD5H /4770K

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              • #8
                Re: USB3 - Ivy Bridge - Haswell

                You will read or hear different descriptions as to how many usb flash drives won't wake from sleep properly.
                FWIW, I was watching an Asus Overclocking video today and the Asus engineer said that they hadn't been able to reproduce the wake from sleep problem in all of their Q-A testing and that apparently it is a very small number of usb flash drives that don't wake from sleep properly. The flash drives that have problems don't loose any data but they need to be ejected and re-connected and the data remains intact.

                The "fixed" chipsets are tentatively scheduled for late July or early August but the only way that we will probably know is when "fixed" motherboard models have a slightly different model name, similar to the "B3" designation with the fixed P67 motherboards several years ago.

                A web search using haswell usb 3.0 issue will provide more information.
                Q9650 @ 4.10GHz [9x456MHz]
                P35-DS4 [rev: 2.0] ~ Bios: F14
                4x2GB OCZ Reaper PC2-8500 1094MHz @5-5-5-15
                MSI N460GTX Hawk Talon Attack (1GB) video card <---- SLI ---->
                Seasonic SS-660XP2 80 Plus Platinum psu (660w)
                WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data)
                Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD (boot)
                SLI @ 16/4 works when running HyperSLI
                Cooler Master 120XL Seidon push/pull AIO cpu water cooling
                Cooler Master HAF XB computer case (RC-902XB-KKN1)
                Asus VH242H 24" monitor [1920x1080]
                MSI N460GTX Hawk (1GB) video card
                Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
                win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium
                HT|Omega Claro plus+ sound card
                CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD UPS
                E6300 (R0) @ 3.504GHz [8x438MHz] ~~ P35-DS3L [rev: 1.0] ~ Bios: F9 ~~ 4x2GB Kingston HyperX T1 PC2-8500, 876MHz @4-4-4-10
                Seasonic X650 80+ gold psu (650w) ~~ Xigmatek Balder HDT 1283 cpu cooler ~~ Cooler Master CM 690 case (RC-690-KKN1-GP)
                Samsung 830 128GB SSD MZ-7PC128B/WW (boot) ~~ WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data) ~~ ZM-MFC2 fan controller
                HT|Omega Striker 7.1 sound card ~~ Asus VH242H monitor [1920x1080] ~~ Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
                win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium ~~ CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD U.P.S
                .

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                • #9
                  Re: USB3 - Ivy Bridge - Haswell

                  Originally posted by Gloup_Gloup View Post
                  Hi stasio,

                  Thank you very much for your answer.

                  I desire to have a link on this subject .... when there will be a'' new''.
                  As noted above,present chipset C1 stepping on board ,will be fix with C2 stepping.
                  Boards with new stepping will be available arround August.

                  Metal layers change from C1 to C2 to fix USB SuperSpeed device remuneration erratum.
                  C1 stepping package is pin compatible with C2 stepping package.
                  Revision ID will change from 04h to 05h.
                  Compatibility revision ID will remain at 04h for Intel Stable Image Platform Program.
                  New S-specs and MM numbers for the converting products.

                  Changes by Intel:

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                  • #10
                    Re: USB3 - Ivy Bridge - Haswell

                    Originally posted by stasio View Post
                    Hi and welcome to forum.

                    Is not first time INTEL release product with "bugs" (P67.... B2=>B3).
                    So far for Z87 system, is noted as you described in your post (USB3), plus bug with some of SSD (Sandforce controllers not recognised).
                    Not much we can do about that part,only updating with latest drivers (BIOS) and wait for INTEL to pass solution.

                    For BIOS flashing,I prefer Q-Flash.
                    As new info appear, will be posted in our forum.
                    Intel 520's recognized fine on my Z87 board, in RAID 0 too, as OS volume.

                    IRST 12.6 has problems with RAID, no longer on Intel's download pages.

                    I tested USB 3.0 flash drives (Patriot, Centon) with Sleep and wake on my Z87 board, worked fine.

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                    • #11
                      Re: USB3 - Ivy Bridge - Haswell

                      Hi parsec,

                      What is your Z87 hardware configuration? In detail... please....


                      ReEDIT:

                      Anybody have a motherboard GA-Z87X-OC with a F5P Bios ?


                      or with a F5q bios?


                      Have you able to use correctly and fine your USB3?

                      Go here for explain your situation....
                      Last edited by Gloup_Gloup; 06-21-2013, 06:04 AM.

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