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  • Z97 Extreme6 and RAID1 on 3TB disks UEFI issue

    I have followed steps to create RAID1 via UEFI setup:


    Change SATA to RAID
    CSM -> Storeage OpRom Policy -> UEFI only
    Advanced -> Intel Rapid Storage Technology -> created RAID1 volume and left SSD as non-RAID


    but when I go to the Boot menu and Boot Options I'm not able to setup SSD or RAID1 as bootable device (are not on the drop down list) so at that point Windows OS cannot be installed on any of those drive setups.


    I have tried multiple times and cannot get any disk in the Boot Options menu when CSM switched from Legacy to UEFI. For me it looks like BIOS bug. Running BIOS 2.50


    Any clue what is going on?

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    Re: Z97 Extreme6 and RAID1 on 3TB disks UEFI issue

    After you download/review the pdf format of ASRocks most recent RAID manual for the ASRock Z97 Extreme6, please post specifics such as what RAID driver you installed (presumably from a FAT32 formatted USB Key setup for UEFI installs), along with which OS you are installing, etc.

    ASRock website for ASRock Z97 Extreme6 RAID manual in PDF format: ASRock > Z97 Extreme6

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    • #3
      Re: Z97 Extreme6 and RAID1 on 3TB disks UEFI issue

      RAID drivers or OS has nothing to do in this case as I'm talking about Boot Options in the UEFI BIOS

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      • #4
        Re: Z97 Extreme6 and RAID1 on 3TB disks UEFI issue

        Originally posted by JackTheKnife View Post
        RAID drivers or OS has nothing to do in this case as I'm talking about Boot Options in the UEFI BIOS
        Did you even look at the pdf?..................... You have the EUFI setup properly; what your problem is, presumably you do not have a EUFI enabled USB bootable Key or CD/DVD. You need to have a EUFI bootable USB Key or CD/DVD showing in your boot options, for you to even be able to install your os. BTW, if you have a EUFI bootable USB key, and on the install screen you do not see your RAID array, it is because you haven't loaded the RAID DRIVER YET via that choice screen. Creating a EUFI bootable USB Key or CD/DVD: Create UEFI Bootable USB Of Windows 10 How to setup for RAID install of OS: How to: Set up RAID Please let me know if this clarifies anything
        Last edited by Endlesspath; 01-18-2016, 03:25 AM. Reason: additional references

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        • #5
          Re: Z97 Extreme6 and RAID1 on 3TB disks UEFI issue

          Originally posted by Endlesspath View Post
          Did you even look at the pdf?.....................
          Did you even read carefully my OP?

          Yes - I have followed steps [from the manual] to create RAID via UEFI setup. And yes - I have bootable USB stick with drivers on it but it doesn't matter when I need to select in the Boot menu of the UEFI BIOS which SSD or HDD is going to be system drive (boot disk) when any of those drivers are not there. And I'm still talking about BIOS Boot options not Windows or other OS boot/installation steps (BTW. Windows 7 installation process will tell you that OS cannot be installed in that case as there are not boot disk selected in the BIOS).

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          • #6
            Re: Z97 Extreme6 and RAID1 on 3TB disks UEFI issue

            If your GPU or IGPU has GOP support then you can install in pure UEFI, which will drop the RAID ROM in the UEFI and switch to the EFI Sata driver in the BIOS/UEFI.

            If you have windows installed correctly on a fat32 flash drive and you open the boot menu at post and choose UEFI ( your flash drive ) just install.

            Do not worry about setting the boot menu in the UEFI because you won't get the drive letter, you get windows boot MGR, so stop looking for the setting.

            Unplug any drive but the drives you want for RAID, go into the UEFI and set the RAID array up, now exit and install windows, that's it.

            Just make sure UEFI is set to RAID and not AHCI . Now after windows is installed you can plug in the other drives.

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            • #7
              Re: Z97 Extreme6 and RAID1 on 3TB disks UEFI issue

              There are two boot menu's.

              The boot inside of the UEFI/BOIS.

              There is the BIOS/UEFI POST menu that shows when you hit F11, this is where you pick UEFI ( flash drive ) if you don't see the UEFI ( your flash drive ) then it's not installed correctly on the flash drive.

              The boot menu inside the BIOS/UEFI, just ignore and install windows.

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              • #8
                Re: Z97 Extreme6 and RAID1 on 3TB disks UEFI issue

                OK - I have loaded Windows7 installation from USB boot (F11) and then on the screen where are disks choices where to install it (RAID driver loaded) I can see SSD non-RAID disk (where I want to install OS) and RAID1 volume but choosing any of those disks it throws a message:

                Windows cannot be installed to this disk. This computer's hardware may not support booting to this disk. Ensure the disk's controller is enabled in the computer's BIOS menu.

                You have said I don't need to worry about setting up boot options (disks choices) in the UEFI.

                Any clue?

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                • #9
                  Re: Z97 Extreme6 and RAID1 on 3TB disks UEFI issue

                  When you open the POST menu and you see your flash drive, and you will see UEFI ( your flash drive ) you pick UEFI, this is the only way to install windows in UEFI.

                  I don't understand what you mean choose disk where to install, because after you choose the UEFI ( your flash drive ) windows should load and start to install, you won't see where to install windows until you get to the drive screen, you know, where you make a new size, and you tell windows to install to C:.

                  Do you have your HDD installed in the Sata0 Sata1 and Sata2, this is where they need to be for OS.

                  Take a quick look at this - make sure you are doing the same. UEFI (Unified Extensible Firmware Interface) - Install Windows 7 with - Windows 7 Help Forums

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                  • #10
                    Re: Z97 Extreme6 and RAID1 on 3TB disks UEFI issue

                    Originally posted by odiebugs View Post
                    Take a quick look at this - make sure you are doing the same. UEFI (Unified Extensible Firmware Interface) - Install Windows 7 with - Windows 7 Help Forums
                    I have that message on a step #8 from that tutorial above.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Z97 Extreme6 and RAID1 on 3TB disks UEFI issue

                      Do you see the screen ( where do you want to install windows ) this is where you would install a driver if 7 is old and didn't have one.

                      You just can't place drivers on a flash drive, they need to be installed if they are needed, just a FYI.

                      There is the load driver, this is where you load a driver that is missing from a windows OS install.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Z97 Extreme6 and RAID1 on 3TB disks UEFI issue

                        This is just a FYI.

                        It's a mistake to install windows on a HDD or even on a RAID set of HDD. You are better off installing windows onto a SSD or a RAID set of SDD's then ever putting them on a HDD or RAID.

                        Actually, windows is faster on a single SSD then it is on a RAID set SSD.

                        Not sure why you want the OS on a RAID set HDD, but just letting you know the facts. It's better to use the RAID as storage and have one SSD as the OS drive.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Z97 Extreme6 and RAID1 on 3TB disks UEFI issue

                          Originally posted by odiebugs View Post
                          Do you see the screen ( where do you want to install windows ) this is where you would install a driver if 7 is old and didn't have one.

                          You just can't place drivers on a flash drive, they need to be installed if they are needed, just a FYI.

                          There is the load driver, this is where you load a driver that is missing from a windows OS install.
                          Read few posts above - RAID driver is loaded manually not only placed on USB. Other way I will not see any disk on the list (step #7 or #8).

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                          • #14
                            Re: Z97 Extreme6 and RAID1 on 3TB disks UEFI issue

                            Originally posted by odiebugs View Post
                            This is just a FYI.

                            It's a mistake to install windows on a HDD or even on a RAID set of HDD. You are better off installing windows onto a SSD or a RAID set of SDD's then ever putting them on a HDD or RAID.

                            Actually, windows is faster on a single SSD then it is on a RAID set SSD.

                            Not sure why you want the OS on a RAID set HDD, but just letting you know the facts. It's better to use the RAID as storage and have one SSD as the OS drive.
                            Dude, you are not reading my posts.... I want to install Windows on SSD which is set as non-RAID. RAID volume is for data stuff only. I gave only an example that I'm not able to install on SSD or even RAID when Win7 is throwing that message when using UEFI CSM

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                            • #15
                              Re: Z97 Extreme6 and RAID1 on 3TB disks UEFI issue

                              Originally posted by JackTheKnife View Post
                              Dude, you are not reading my posts.... I want to install Windows on SSD which is set as non-RAID. RAID volume is for data stuff only. I gave only an example that I'm not able to install on SSD or even RAID when Win7 is throwing that message when using UEFI CSM
                              Myself I have win10 pro 64 installed on the Extreme6 with 2.50 bios (see my config). The OS is installed on a Samsung NVMe 950 Pro M.2, with a 2 drive RAID 1 array, along with 2 single additional drives. For me, besides having the UEFI bootable USB key with the Win10 install on it, I also had Samsung NVMe driver along with the Intel IRST (RAID) driver on the key. My install was uneventful, I only had the M.2 attached at first (though bios/UEFI was setup ahead for UEFI install only on CSM and RAID . Upon reboot, I made sure the UEFI USB key was showing as #1 on boot order, then went ahead started the OS install from the key -REALIZE THAT I COULD ONLY SEE THE UEFI USB Key in the bios, I COULD NOT SEE THE M.2 iIN THE BIOS/UEFI!. I had to first install (on the OS drive screen) the Samsung NVMe driver to get the M.2 to show, thereafter I did the usual OS install from that point once the M.2 showed. Upon completion of OS install, I then turned off system, attached the 2 raid drives, and restarted PC reentering bios/UEFI - AGAIN REALIZE THAT IN THE BIOS/UEFI BOOT ORDER I DID NOT HAVE THE DRIVE ITSELF SHOWING, I HAD THE PHRASE "Windows Boot Manager" SHOWING! (FYI - Samsung 950 Pro does not show in 2.50 bios, it will not be viewable till a future bios update per ASROCKAMERICA). I then setup the raid array as you mentioned, and restarted the system. Once I entered the OS, I then went ahead into Disk management and setup the two drives to be useable by the OS. Finally installed the Intel Rapid Storage Technology drivers and Software set, and completed the setup of the RAID array by means of the IRST set. Basically I have running what you are trying to accomplish.
                              One other FYI on RAID using IRST - I had to disable fast boot, both in the os and in bios/uefi as the IRST set would strangely show a working/functional RAID array as "INCOMPATIBLE". Only with fast boot disabled would RAID show normal function.
                              Last edited by Endlesspath; 01-18-2016, 04:24 PM. Reason: additional info

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