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Thread: How would I know if I blew out my chip?




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    Quote Originally Posted by Divine_Madcat
    Yup, if it is JUST the CPU, you will get beep codes... If it is damage from improper HSF attachment, then you wont get jack, as the Mainboard is dead as well.. power surge... well.. it might spin the fans, but not much else..
    It depends on how you 'improperly' installed the HSF... you don't normally kill a mainboard if you install a HSF the wrong way..

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    I remember when I installed my HSF upside down once...

    That killed the CPU....and they wouldn't replace it under warranty :geek:
    Quick!!.Pack your bags!!

    The Elephants are coming!!

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    It depends on how you 'improperly' installed the HSF... you don't normally kill a mainboard if you install a HSF the wrong way..
    Well, that is not true either.. if you have a T-Bird or Xp, and you dont attach it so it cools, you will BURN your mobo.. Somewhat the same way with 370s (Coppermines), but not nearly as bad.....

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    didn't see mine burn.. Like I said, it depends on how you improperly install it.

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    Odddd... Never heard of an uncooled T-Bird NOT cooking the board.. butt... ok.. :)

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    Installed the HSF upside down? As a newbie to this, that makes me feel a little better. So at least I'm not the only one screwing up their stuff the first go 'round. :-)

    Maybe someone can help me with this, I haven't had much luck so far. I purchased the following components to build a new box:

    MSI Mainboard SIS 645 chipset
    P4 1.5 cpu 478 socket
    case w/ 400 volt PSU
    Geforce3 Ti200
    512 MB DDR ram

    At the moment I have no cards or devices in the box, other than the video card. What seems to be completely random occurences seem to happen whenever I boot up though. Sometimes I start up and am able to get into BIOS without trouble. However, When modifying BIOS, it almost always freezes up on me before I can save and exit. On restart, nothing shows up on the monitor, although the monitor light is green, indicating input, (as opposed to yellow). The system doesn't beep, and it seems as if only the fan is running. At this point if I reset CMOS, I can get the computer to start normally again, but it always ends up freezing in BIOS. The behavior is almost completely erratic, and sometimes I get random error messages like: "Low Battery" (though I just bought the thing), and "CMOS Setting Error", although I've been VERY careful not to start my computer with CMOS in reset mode.

    I checked the temperatures of the cpu and mobo, and they're both running around 86 degrees F. I did not use thermal grease between the HSF and cpu, and the HSF didn't have any padding on the bottom. Some have told me this isn't a problem, others have told me it is. I've tried swapping my geforce3 video card for my older diamond viper. Same situation. The geforce works fine on my other computer. So I'm thinking the problem must be with the cpu, motherboard, or my RAM.

    I heard that a certain type of RAM works better on the MSI board, though I can't recall what it was. I don't have any other RAM to substitute in to check, since my older computer uses SDRAM, and it doesn't fit in the newer DDR slots on my new mobo. Does it sound like RAM could be causing the problem? Or does it sound like I blew something out on my mobo or cpu?

    This is all from the mind of a newbie, so if I misinterpreted anything, feel free to correct me. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated, as I'm trying to prepare myself to deal with this $800 paper weight.

    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by [size=6
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    I did not use thermal grease between the HSF and cpu, and the HSF didn't have any padding on the bottom. Some have told me this isn't a problem, others have told me it is.
    Well it isn't a good thing to do so get some AS3 in there quickly as air pockets between core and HSF are probably causing hot spots and that maybe what your problem is. :smokin:
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    sounds like a problem I had on my old MSI K7T Pro2-A... and that ended up being a cracked CPU core... I could occasionally get into the BIOS.. sometimes even start to boot, but it always crashed... Check your CPU for any cracks / fractures on the top...

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    It does have an IHS on top of the core though. :smokin:

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    I think your CPU is/had some real problems with no thermal interface material of any sort.. the users who told u that u didnt need it probably dont have hot CPU types... remember... even if a core or heatsink LOOKs flat, it still has microscopic pits, which when added up, means alot of area is still not being contacted... the TIMis used to fill in those spots..without it, not enough contact can be made, and it can/will overheat...

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