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  1. #11
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    Personally, I'd get at least the one with Serial-ATA. AS for the onboard NIC, it actually isn't such a bad option since it is 10/100/1000 after all. For a measly $30 more from the base model, you get the Digital I/O, Serial-ATA interface, and 10/100/1000 network card. For the $30 somewhat dollars it is money definitely worth spending considering what you are getting. Just get the fully loaded A7V8x for the best deal. Also, have you considered a ASUS A7N8X featuring the NFORCE-2 Motherboard. those should be really fast.
    It's NEVER fast Enough!!!
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    So the board with the Serial ATA has 10/10/1000 lan and the Digital I/O for the audio... Thats what I want, I want the one that has the best audio, meaning this digital I/O board... The board with serial ATA also has RAID doesnt it???

    I'm not really interested in the nforce2, i've always had a board based on one VIA chipset or another... The only board that wasnt was my old P3 BX board... I've always been happy with the VIA chipset, I know they've taken some ridiculing lately, but personalilly I've never had a problem with them... I don't do much overclocking so that must be it.. LOL.. another thing with the nforce board is the onboard video.. I wont be using it, so why pay for something I wont use.. I'll hvae my G4 Ti4200 in for awhile until I get a new card based on the NV30 chip....

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    I've also been a loyal VIA user. I've never had any real problems that thier updated 4n1 drivers never fixed. But as for the exact board specs you need to be sure of what is included. The digital I/O should come with the board that has both Serial-ATA, 10/100/1000 NIC..but then again it seems that everything is an option now-a-days. From NEWEGG.COM it seems that you can get the board for $160.00 but that doesn't come with the Digital I/O, but you can buy it for $15.00 from thier site as well. I've checked a few places and have had no luck in finding the Mobo w/ the I/O.

    I have never seen a A7V8X w/ a RAID option. Rather, I've only seen it with Serial-ATA as an option.

    And heck, GF4-Ti4200 it runs most if not all games the way you want anyhow. i've got a GF3-Ti200 and it's still running games fine. UT2003, WCIII, QuakeIII, etc.

    I guess you are NVIDIA loyal as well, but FYI TYAN came out with a RADEON 9700 clocked at 400MHz!! even faster than ATI's offering.
    It's NEVER fast Enough!!!
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    SB PCI 128
    Adaptec 2100s u160
    15K Hitachi 18.6GB HDD
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    AthlonXP 2000+@1760MHz
    MSI KT3 Ultra2-CE
    256MB PC-2700 CAS-2.5
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    MAXTOR 20GB ATA-133
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    A2Zcomputers has 3 different boards they list as:

    A7V8X /A/L $119
    A7V8X /A/L/SAT/1394 $133
    A7V8X /GBL/1394/SATA $129

    if its possible to purchase that "optional"I/O board sepretly then thats fine too...

    Yeah I read that Article about the Tyan 9700Pro card.. Interesting, but I can't see throwing down $300+ for a 9700 pro now, when the NV30 are right around the corner, clocked at 1000mhz +.....

    And to answer your question, yea i'm pretty loyal to nvidia, only have ever had 1 card that wasn't nvidia chip based.... and that was my very 1st agp card..lol way back.. Hercules I think it was the Terminator 128, or something like that.. i forget.. but it was S3 chip based..

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    That's Strange how the A7V8X with the Gigabit LAN costs less than the one with the standard 10/100 LAN. Oh well, get the one that gives more for the dollar ($129).

    As for video cards, I shop for what gives me the best bang for my $$$. I've switched back a forth between ATI and NVIDIA...but started with the PCI S3 Virge Decellerator. But back then I could say that I had a 2D/3D card....ha ha ha. Damn what a waste of money. LOL.

    Well, it looks like your set A7V8X + GLAN + SATA + 1394 + onboard Audio.

    Oh hey since your not much of an overclocker...and it seems that Audio is a big thing for you...you should really check out the AOPEN AX4B-533 Tube Motherboard. Sadly it's only for P4 based chips...for now, but that is high end audio componentry on a PC board. I'm kind of a sound snob, so I've been tempted too many times, but since I'm somewhat AMD loyal I tend to stay with them. BTE, what CPU are you planning to get for this board?

    I've checked PRICEWATCH.COM and there are places that now carry the 2600+ w/333MHz BUS along with the 2700+ w/333MHz BUS. I've got to tell you that the 333MHz BUS is pretty nice...things do run a lot smoother. I've got my 1600+ @ 333MHz and it's much smoother than at 266MHz. But the new stuff always comes with the price premium.
    It's NEVER fast Enough!!!
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    SYSTEM 1

    Cel-T 1.3@1.575
    ABIT ST6
    512MB PC-133 SDRAM
    GF3 Ti200 64MB
    SB PCI 128
    Adaptec 2100s u160
    15K Hitachi 18.6GB HDD
    _________________________
    SYSTEM 2

    AthlonXP 2000+@1760MHz
    MSI KT3 Ultra2-CE
    256MB PC-2700 CAS-2.5
    RADEON 9000 PRO
    MAXTOR 20GB ATA-133
    SB Live! 5.1
    3COM 3905C-TXNM
    _________________________

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    Doen anyone know if the MSI KT400 has the SATA integrated onto the southbridge? I am thinking about building a new system (for really high computational performance) and am either going to put in a SATA drive or Ultra160 SCSI. The SATA seems to get similar performance, but only if it is hooked directly into the southbridge (as opposed to being connected through the PCI bus).

    Thanks in advance

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    I believe that all the onboard S-ATA features/funtions are controller by a PROMISE S-ATA controller chip if not a Highpointe one. I haven't heard of any integrated controller as of yet. Which is why board manf. are still offering them as options.
    It's NEVER fast Enough!!!
    __________________________
    SYSTEM 1

    Cel-T 1.3@1.575
    ABIT ST6
    512MB PC-133 SDRAM
    GF3 Ti200 64MB
    SB PCI 128
    Adaptec 2100s u160
    15K Hitachi 18.6GB HDD
    _________________________
    SYSTEM 2

    AthlonXP 2000+@1760MHz
    MSI KT3 Ultra2-CE
    256MB PC-2700 CAS-2.5
    RADEON 9000 PRO
    MAXTOR 20GB ATA-133
    SB Live! 5.1
    3COM 3905C-TXNM
    _________________________

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    I've seen that Aopen board for an AMD cpu.. I believe its the first avalible Hammer mobo.. The reason i'm so interested in the sound system is becasue it'll be hooked up to my home system. Macintosh Mono's and Krell preamp.. it would be a shame if the audio sucked that bad that it wouldn't sound good on my stuff, thats why i like the idea of the digital optical output on that i/o board....

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    Hey nice audio equip. I must say the last thing you want is some harsh noise running through your audio equip. I've had my some pretty bad sound cards running through my Stereo...YAMAHA PIANOCRAFT Micro SYSTEM paired to some KLIPSCH KG1.5. Man I could swear that I blew a cone on several occasions. I've since switched back to some cambridge PC speakers for my system.

    Speaking of Audio Equipment. What speakers are you using?

    I'm looking for some new bookshelf speakers and was looking at

    Athena Technologies AS-B1, AS-B2

    Wharfedale DIAMOND 8.1 and 8.2 Series

    I've already picked up some Sound Dynamics RT-3...nice little speakers but requires quite a bit to drive them.

    I already have some Energy C-6 for the dining room. Still probably some of the swweetest sounding speakers I've heard yet. For vocals. For the Jazz, I like the Klipsch.

    Anyways, what do you think?
    It's NEVER fast Enough!!!
    __________________________
    SYSTEM 1

    Cel-T 1.3@1.575
    ABIT ST6
    512MB PC-133 SDRAM
    GF3 Ti200 64MB
    SB PCI 128
    Adaptec 2100s u160
    15K Hitachi 18.6GB HDD
    _________________________
    SYSTEM 2

    AthlonXP 2000+@1760MHz
    MSI KT3 Ultra2-CE
    256MB PC-2700 CAS-2.5
    RADEON 9000 PRO
    MAXTOR 20GB ATA-133
    SB Live! 5.1
    3COM 3905C-TXNM
    _________________________

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    I'm currently running a pair of B&W Nautilus 801's. I found B&W after listening to many different brands of speakers to be the most accurate as far as voice reproduction... I have always like Energy's speakers, same with wharfdale. Wharfdale seemed to tail off there for a while, but they are making a pretty good comback to where they use to be..
    You may wanna check out some B&W's if you into jazz.. It all depends on what you wanna spend though, I mean you can get a pair of Signature 805's for about $3000. They have the same high end as my 801's, just in a bookshelf speaker. Also the DM601 S3 model is about $450-$500 a pair, and the next model up the DM602 S3 is about $600 a pair...

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