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    yah, mad mike, if you're trying to save $ and want a good case, get a case that also has a PSU. The case Wiggo linked is great. At least 4 different companies carry their versions of it. I believe the Antec version (in the link) is the best and also comes with the best PSU for the $. It is imperitive that you get a new case if you want your comp to stay cool, and I think that antec is your best option. Good luck, : peace2: Mista K6
    Modified Dell 8200 Case:
    -400MHz FSB i850 Intel mobo
    -P4 Williamette Socket 478, 1.9GHz
    -768MB 16-bit PC800 RDRAM
    -MSI GF4 Ti4200 128MB @ 284/581
    -7200 RPM Maxtors: 60GB (2MB) on mobo and 160GB (8MB) on ATA/133 PCI Card
    -Creative Inspire T7700 7.1 Speaker System on an Audigy 2
    -Windows XP Home Edition SP2

    Rock on : peace2: , MiStA K6

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    yeah i think i will go with that case too mista k6 :cheers:


    but on the issue of memory,
    whats better 1 gig of 2700 or 512 of 3200??
    Pentium 4 CPU 2.60GHz @ 3.4 ghz
    ABIT A17 Motherboard
    1 GB PC3700 DDR-SDRAM
    Nvidia Geforce FX 6800 GT core 400 mem 1050
    Watercooled CPU and GPU
    WD 80 GB 7200rpm HDD
    WD 250 GB 7200 HDD
    Atapi CD-ROM 48x
    HP DVD Writer 300n
    Realtek 6 Channel Audio
    Windows XP Professional
    430 watt Antec TruePower

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    1 GB PC2700 or 512 MB PC3200?depends on what you're after and your needs. If you do a lot of memory-intensive tasks and OC your CPU is not a priority then take the PC2700. If you're more after performace and do intend to OC then get the DDR400.

    However, if it was me, I would get the 512 DDR400 now and get a second stick at a later time.
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    actually just to make things clear, the 2700 as it pertains to ram doesnt mean that its for CPUs up to 2700mhZ does it?
    Pentium 4 CPU 2.60GHz @ 3.4 ghz
    ABIT A17 Motherboard
    1 GB PC3700 DDR-SDRAM
    Nvidia Geforce FX 6800 GT core 400 mem 1050
    Watercooled CPU and GPU
    WD 80 GB 7200rpm HDD
    WD 250 GB 7200 HDD
    Atapi CD-ROM 48x
    HP DVD Writer 300n
    Realtek 6 Channel Audio
    Windows XP Professional
    430 watt Antec TruePower

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    no. PC2700 = DDR333 = 166 x2

    it's for cpu's with a FSB of 166 mhz or less
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    Wiggo sugested a good case that comes with three fans and good psu for a good price. Antec's site shows an award from tweak town for that psu antec award. If I lived in the usa, I would probably use those for lots of customer's machines. Cases come in many styles and varietys. And where I live, stuff that complete can not be aquired for cheap. For example there are kick ass cases like the thermaltake xaser III v2000a super tower which is aluminum and very pricey like $270cdn+14% tax no psu, $350cdn+14% tax with thermaltake 420w purepower psu.
    Then there are junk ass cases for $40cdn+14% tax with cheapo 350w psu (that will fry your stuff sooner than later). These psu's can't handle p4 or athlon xp (although they are falsely advertised to). Mass made pc's like dell, hp, compaq, gateway, sony, etc also have cheap low wattage psu's. I had a new one pop while building a machine for a very frugile customer a few weeks ago(told him so).
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    oh ok thanks minibubba.

    and yeah maximus7001 those cases look sweet, but even though i live in USA doesnt mean i can afford one :laugh:

    is there any performance increases with a higher wattage psu? or is it mainly for increased lifetime and safety for your parts?
    Pentium 4 CPU 2.60GHz @ 3.4 ghz
    ABIT A17 Motherboard
    1 GB PC3700 DDR-SDRAM
    Nvidia Geforce FX 6800 GT core 400 mem 1050
    Watercooled CPU and GPU
    WD 80 GB 7200rpm HDD
    WD 250 GB 7200 HDD
    Atapi CD-ROM 48x
    HP DVD Writer 300n
    Realtek 6 Channel Audio
    Windows XP Professional
    430 watt Antec TruePower

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    Ok, 3 things:

    1) The higher the wattage on the PSU means the more power it can supply. My 250watts carries my CPU, mobo, Ti4200, and two HDD's, and 3 fans just fine. However, if I was to add 4 cathode lights and a 9800Pro, I'd fry it, as it cant put out the needed power. Hence, higher wattage = more stuff you can add w/o fear.
    Also, if you're going to o/c, more power is needed cause you have to supply more voltage to you o/c'd parts.

    2) Unless I'm reading something wrong, it is imperitive that you get PC3200 (or DDR400) RAM. Your CPU is a 2.6GHz on an 800FSB. 800FSB (or 200Mhzx4) and DDR 400 (Same external frequency of 200MHz, but x2) run at the same speed. If you get PC2700 (DDR333), then you're seriously going to limit your system (cause the FSB will knock itself down to 333, or 166x2, and that just sucks). Therefore, if oyu can only afford 512MB of DDR400, go for it! I like Corsair RAM, and I would at least get DDR466 (PC3700) as it runs at 233x2, so you can o/c your system to that point w/o maxing your RAM. It's also $140 for 2x256MB sticks here . Also, do not get low latency RAM as you have a P4 board, and they love higher MHz over lower latencies (it's like, an increase of 3MHz on the FSB over performs much lower latencies).

    3) Finally, I've had my Dell 8200 for over 2 years now. The PSU is only a 250watt, but it runs all my parts quite well. Dell does puts some good PSU's in its computers.
    Modified Dell 8200 Case:
    -400MHz FSB i850 Intel mobo
    -P4 Williamette Socket 478, 1.9GHz
    -768MB 16-bit PC800 RDRAM
    -MSI GF4 Ti4200 128MB @ 284/581
    -7200 RPM Maxtors: 60GB (2MB) on mobo and 160GB (8MB) on ATA/133 PCI Card
    -Creative Inspire T7700 7.1 Speaker System on an Audigy 2
    -Windows XP Home Edition SP2

    Rock on : peace2: , MiStA K6

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    ok that clears things up a lot, but is it better to buy two sticks of 256 mb as opposed to one stick of 512? or is that not even possible?
    Pentium 4 CPU 2.60GHz @ 3.4 ghz
    ABIT A17 Motherboard
    1 GB PC3700 DDR-SDRAM
    Nvidia Geforce FX 6800 GT core 400 mem 1050
    Watercooled CPU and GPU
    WD 80 GB 7200rpm HDD
    WD 250 GB 7200 HDD
    Atapi CD-ROM 48x
    HP DVD Writer 300n
    Realtek 6 Channel Audio
    Windows XP Professional
    430 watt Antec TruePower

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    oh and another thing, a while back i tried to install windows xp professional on my computer to see if it would speed things up but then my usb stopped working so i bailed on that plan. Is professional worth it or should i just stick with home?
    Pentium 4 CPU 2.60GHz @ 3.4 ghz
    ABIT A17 Motherboard
    1 GB PC3700 DDR-SDRAM
    Nvidia Geforce FX 6800 GT core 400 mem 1050
    Watercooled CPU and GPU
    WD 80 GB 7200rpm HDD
    WD 250 GB 7200 HDD
    Atapi CD-ROM 48x
    HP DVD Writer 300n
    Realtek 6 Channel Audio
    Windows XP Professional
    430 watt Antec TruePower

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