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    Default Are these RAMs good for overclocking?

    OCZ EL Dual Channel Gold 512MB 256x2 DDR550 PC-4400

    Their timings are 2.5-4-4-8. Aren't these really good timings for a PC4400? Would CAS2 rams perform better?

    BTW on another note, is there any software that lets you change the votage of your RAMs without going to BIOs?
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    Default Re: Are these RAMs good for overclocking?

    Those timings really kinda suck pretty hard, but if you didn't hit the ceiling on that RAM, you might be able to use lower timings.

    Personally, I wouldn't get OCZ brand stuff simply because of their reputation. They seem to be doing better now, but I think I speak for many when I say it's going to take a long time for people to trust OCZ.

    For software, unless Chaintech has some software specifically designed for their motherboards, no software I can think of does what you're asking. Abit has something for their uGuru boards, but it works in conjunction with their proprietary uGuru chip.

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    aww, i was searching n i found that Intel is making it for there mobo's. It can change voltage, get temp, n fan speed , all that.
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    For what they are, they have reasonably good overclocking, although Giel 4400 and Corsair XMS Plantium are overall better cards. If you're looking for the best in overclocking cards though, I'd say stick with the OCZ, but use the brand I plan on putting into my computer, the DL 4000 (DDR-500). They can overclock to 284mHz (568mHz), that's almost as much as the Giel 4400 (DDR-550) can do.
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    Default Re: Are these RAMs good for overclocking?

    Quote Originally Posted by jd53887
    aww, i was searching n i found that Intel is making it for there mobo's. It can change voltage, get temp, n fan speed , all that.
    It's for Intel-made boards. Just because it has an Intel chipset doesn't mean that utility will work on a non-Intel motherboard.

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    Default Re: Are these RAMs good for overclocking?

    Are you sure, cause I read that it was designed for there mobo. I'm pretty sure it said "designed for Intel mobo" or something along that affect. Then it listed a bunch of Intel's mobo that the program would work with. I guess I'll go look again.

    EDIT: Found it. It's caled Intel Active Monitor. It quotes "Intel® Active Monitor is an alerting utility created by Intel and available exclusively on Intel® Desktop Boards1" You see that 1 at the bottom, it quotes "1Not available on all Intel Desktop Boards. Check your individual board product CD for availability." "The Intel Active Monitor works with specialized sensors on your Intel Desktop Board to constantly monitor the system's temperatures, power supply voltages, and fan speeds."

    http://www.intel.com/design/motherbd/active.htm
    Last edited by jd53887; 08-13-2004 at 07:00 AM.
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    Default Re: Are these RAMs good for overclocking?

    I reconmend ddr3500...since the timing is good and you can get good oc'ing head room.
    EDIT: The intel active monitor is only for intel boards, and i see no point in using it, since it gives you the exact same thing in bios.

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    Default Re: Are these RAMs good for overclocking?

    Quote Originally Posted by Quicksilver62160
    For what they are, they have reasonably good overclocking, although Giel 4400 and Corsair XMS Plantium are overall better cards. If you're looking for the best in overclocking cards though, I'd say stick with the OCZ, but use the brand I plan on putting into my computer, the DL 4000 (DDR-500). They can overclock to 284mHz (568mHz), that's almost as much as the Giel 4400 (DDR-550) can do.
    Back to the RAMs, now if I do OC it to the roof, which should be more than 275FSB*14(the multiplier) = 2890mhz. If I do indeed bring it higher than this, this usually mean my CPU will get some extra heat. I beleive this is correct. I am currently using the fan that came with the CPU. (Is that what you means when you use the stock fan?) I have a giant home fan blowing air conditioned air at my computer. The fan looks something like this.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...318832962&rd=1

    With the side off and the fan blowing about 19C - 20C air at it, it should take away any heat at all that comes out of any part of the computer. This includes the HDD, RAMs, video card, and CPU. If I OC the CPU, will it still be too hot? The heatsink of my CPU right now is only 5C hotter than my room temp. If it does get too hot, will this affect how much OC'ing I can do? For example, if the CPU gets too hot, will it turn off before I even get above 275FSB?

    Another question about the timing. Is it better to get PC4000 with 2.5-4-4-7 or PC4400 with 2.5-4-4-8? And if I dont bring it all the way up, is it at all possible to change the timings to 2-?-?-?
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    -Motherboard - Chaintech S865PE Socket 478 Intel® Pentium 4 800MHz FSB Intel 865PE + ICH5
    -RAMs - pqi TURBO (2 x 1GB) DDR400 Dual Channel 2.5-3-2-5
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    Default Re: Are these RAMs good for overclocking?

    I don't think a fan like that would be a good idea. Get a new heatsink and fan since you are using the stock. Someone else can suggest one for your processor since I do not pay attention to Intel stuff. The fan will just blow cold air into the comp and dust along with it.

    As for the ram get PC3500 as timings ar much better. 2 of these should be good

    http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...207-011&depa=1
    Last edited by KoolDrew; 08-18-2004 at 09:43 PM.

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    Default Re: Are these RAMs good for overclocking?

    yea.... I know, I've been reading all about PC3500. I am getting PC3500. I also already looked at the RAM you posted. It looks really good. The reason I am asking is because I want to know about the higher rated speed RAMs. I just wanted to know if I do get PC4400 RAMs, will I be able to OC that high with stock cooling or either get the timings to cas2. BTW, does anybody know if I can get those kreton rams to 2-2-2-5?
    -Case - Aspire X-Dreamer (Silver)
    -Processor - P4 2.8C OC 3.26GHz
    -Motherboard - Chaintech S865PE Socket 478 Intel® Pentium 4 800MHz FSB Intel 865PE + ICH5
    -RAMs - pqi TURBO (2 x 1GB) DDR400 Dual Channel 2.5-3-2-5
    -Graphic Card - HIS ATI 512MB X1650 Pro
    -Hard Drive - Western Digital 7200rpm 8mb cache (250gb)
    -CD Drive - NEC DVD-RW ND-2510A

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