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    Default o/cing q8300 on g31m-gs r2.0

    hi, i am new to overclocking and need some advice, i would like to go from 2.5ghz to 3ghz to improve gaming. if i set the cpu freq to 400 x 7.5 which voltage option should i use? there are about 4 options (i think the highest is 3.45v). the ram-cpu ratio is 5-4...can i unlink the ram from the cpu?
    also i am using kingston hyper-x ddr2 8500 ram (2x2gb) this is set at ddr800 but i noticed that he ram voltage can be increased to 2.2v in the bios settings....can i put the voltage up and run the ramon 8500 settings? sorry for all the questions
    many thanks

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    Default Re: o/cing q8300 on g31m-gs r2.0

    We need detailed information about ALL OF THE HARDWARE in your system.

    We can best help you after you create a detailed hardware list in the System Specs portion of your
    forum profile http://forums.tweaktown.com/profile.php?do=editprofile at the bottom of the
    profile page or in your forum signature http://forums.tweaktown.com/profile....=editsignature.
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    Default Re: o/cing q8300 on g31m-gs r2.0

    hi, i have updated my profile with my pc specs,
    many thanks for taking the time to try and help me

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    Default Re: o/cing q8300 on g31m-gs r2.0

    Your motherboard has limited overclocking features.
    From page 8 in your motherboard user manual:
    WARNING
    Please realize that there is a certain risk involved with overclocking, including adjusting the setting in the BIOS, applying Untied Overclocking Technology, or using the third-party overclocking tools. Overclocking may affect your system stability, or even cause damage to the components and devices of your system. It should be done at your own risk and expense. We are not responsible for possible damage caused by overclocking.

    CAUTION!
    1. FSB1600-CPU will operate in overclocking mode. Under this situation, PCIE frequency will also be overclocked to 120MHz. Besides, if you want to overclock the CPU you adopt from FSB800 to FSB1066, you need to adjust the jumpers. If you adopt FSB1600-CPU, you also need to adjust the jumpers. Please refer to page 20 for proper jumper settings.
    2. About the setting of “Hyper Threading Technology”, please check page 32.
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    4. This motherboard supports Dual Channel Memory Technology. Before you implement Dual Channel Memory Technology, make sure to read the installation guide of memory modules on page 17 for proper installation.
    5. Please check the table below for the CPU FSB frequency and its corresponding memory support frequency.
      CPU FSB Frequency ----- Memory Support Frequency
      -------1600 ------------------------- DDR2 800
      -------1333 --------------------- DDR2 667, DDR2 800
      -------1066 --------------------- DDR2 667, DDR2 800
      --------800 --------------------- DDR2 667, DDR2 800
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    PCI-e frequency = 120MHz is MUCH HIGHER than I've ever seen and this seems awfully excessive for any motherboard, especially a lower end motherboard.
    You will probably need 2.10 - 2.20 volts for your memory.
    Your cpu might need a slight increase in voltage, but the cpu voltage should not need to be any higher than about 1.30 volts.
    I'll look more more closely at the overclocking option later.

    Given the minimal o/c options, I suggest that you try to run your memory with 4-4-4-12 primary memory timings.
    There is virtually no real world difference with memory at 800MHz with tight memory timings and 1066MHz with looser 5-5-5-15 timings.
    My 4 x 2GB HyperX T1 DDR2-1066 memory is stable with 4-4-4-10 timings at 876MHz, but my P35 motherboard is a much better overclocking motherboard with many more bios options that help with stability.
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    Smile Re: o/cing q8300 on g31m-gs r2.0

    hi, i have been looking at the bios and i have a few more questions to ask (sorry about this)
    my dram options above the 1.8v that im running at are 1.965v, 2.029v, 2.086v, 2.144v and 2.201v. it states that the last 2 are for o/c use only. do i need to put up to 2.2v to adjust timings?
    also should the dram rcomp be on auto or man (its on auto by default)
    there is also memory flexability option?
    nb has auto or 1.272v & 1.319v manual options (on auto at present)
    vtt is on auto (vcore is running at about 1.264 - 1.272 on cpuz) manual options are 1.21v, 1.32v, 1.40v & 1.51v - which voltage do you suggest to up cpu from 333 to 400? (i tried 400 with auto on and would not boot to bios) and are vtt and vcore the same thing?
    also i have untied the pci-e so it stays at 100mhz.
    one last question, how do i untie the memory from the cpu or will the ratio correct itself from 5.4 to 1.1 by itself?
    im sorry for all the questions and am very greatful for all your help
    Last edited by rob2611; 07-13-2013 at 08:06 AM. Reason: i made a few mistakes

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    Default Re: o/cing q8300 on g31m-gs r2.0

    Your original cpu settings were 7.5 x 333 for 2.50GHz.
    Trying for 7.5 x 400 for 3.00GHz is too big of a jump.
    I don't see any bios options for increasing Cpu core voltage.
    VTT refers to Cpu Termination and this setting is sometimes increased to help with stability, but it shouldn't be set higher than cpu core voltage. Posting a cropped screen-shot from CPU-z will give us an idea of the cpu core voltage.
    It will also help if you include Memset's information in the screen-shot when you click on the SPD and >> options.
    Memset freeware -- Tweakers.fr

    Try splitting the difference and go with 7.5 x 366 with the following settings:
    Code:
    CPU Frequency (MHz) = 366
    PCIE Frequency (MHz) = 100
    Spread Spectrum = Disabled (AUTO might be OK)
    Enhance Halt State = Disabled (for now)
    Intel (R) Virtualization tech = Disabled
    CPU Thermal Throttling = Enabled
    No-Excute Memory Protection = Enabled
    Intel (R) SpeedStep(tm) tech = Disabled (for now)
    On-Demand Clock Modulation = AUTO
    DRAM Frequency = 400 (it looks like there are only 2 options: [333MHz (DDRII667)] and [400MHz (DDRII800)]
    Flexibility Option
    The default value of this option is [Disabled]. It will allow better tolerance for
    memory compatibility when it is set to [Enabled].
    DRAM tCL = AUTO
    DRAM tRCD = AUTO 
    DRAM tRP = AUTO
    DRAM tRAS = AUTO
    --> The above 4 settings will probably result in 5-5-5-15 settings
    Primary Graphics Adapter = PCI Express
    DRAM Voltage = 2.029V
    NB Voltage = 1.272 (AUTO might be OK)
    VTT Voltage = 1.21V (AUTO might be OK)
    +1.5V Voltage = 1.5651V (AUTO might be OK)
    Intelligent Energy Saver = Disabled (for now)
    DRAM RCOMP Setting = ? (let us know what options are available)
    ACPI HPET Table = Enabled
    Q9650 @ 4.10GHz [9x456MHz]
    P35-DS4 [rev: 2.0] ~ Bios: F14
    4x2GB OCZ Reaper PC2-8500 1094MHz @5-5-5-15
    MSI N460GTX Hawk Talon Attack (1GB) video card <---- SLI ---->
    Seasonic SS-660XP2 80 Plus Platinum psu (660w)
    WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data)
    Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD (boot)
    SLI @ 16/4 works when running HyperSLI
    Cooler Master 120XL Seidon push/pull AIO cpu water cooling
    Cooler Master HAF XB computer case (RC-902XB-KKN1)
    Asus VH242H 24" monitor [1920x1080]
    MSI N460GTX Hawk (1GB) video card
    Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
    win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium
    HT|Omega Claro plus+ sound card
    CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD UPS
    E6300 (R0) @ 3.504GHz [8x438MHz] ~~ P35-DS3L [rev: 1.0] ~ Bios: F9 ~~ 4x2GB Kingston HyperX T1 PC2-8500, 876MHz @4-4-4-10
    Seasonic X650 80+ gold psu (650w) ~~ Xigmatek Balder HDT 1283 cpu cooler ~~ Cooler Master CM 690 case (RC-690-KKN1-GP)
    Samsung 830 128GB SSD MZ-7PC128B/WW (boot) ~~ WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data) ~~ ZM-MFC2 fan controller
    HT|Omega Striker 7.1 sound card ~~ Asus VH242H monitor [1920x1080] ~~ Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
    win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium ~~ CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD U.P.S
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