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    Default Need help | EP45T-UD3LR | Xeon X5460 | 1600 RAM settings

    Hello !

    Could you please help me?

    I would like to ask for help with some settings
    Currently I'm running a 771 ghetto modded X5460 in a P45 board.
    I have 4 sticks of Kingmax FLGE85F-B8MF7 MEEH 2GB RAM moduls.

    I can't find a techspec for them but the boxing says:
    DDR III 1600 Mhz 7-7-7 CL7 @ 1.5-1.8v 12.8GB/s

    My goal is 9.5x400 (3800Mhz) with 1600 DRAM freq.
    I don't want to hit the CPU too hard couse i want to use for the next few years
    Yea' I know "It's 2014 MAN!" but i simply dont have the money for a whole new rig.

    The problem is that i can't reach 1600 DRAM
    Tried leaving everything at auto tried to set defaults manually.I've tried several other timings, voltage settings but still nothing.
    I removed 2 of the modules and still nothing
    Tried to raise MCH Core to the sky, even tried lowering it.
    If CPU Host is at 400 and DRAM is at 1.8v it wont even POST!
    the board should be capable of 2200+ FSB

    now its running at a pathetic 1520Mhz w/ 9-9-9-24 timings at 1.9v !
    SUPER SLOW

    Any advice?

    Thank you

    below are the current settings:

    Need help | EP45T-UD3LR | Xeon X5460 | 1600 RAM settings-tt-2-jpg

    BIOS:
    Code:
    Motherboard: EP-45T-UD3LR Rev#:  Bios Version: F10Cpu: Intel Xeon X5460
    Ram: Kingston, FLGE85F B8MF7 MEEH
    Power Supply Unit: FSP, HE-500, 500W
    
    
    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    Robust Graphics Booster -------- : [Auto]
    CPU Clock Ratio ---------------- : [x9]
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio ----------- : [0.5] 
    CPU Frequency -------------- : 3.61 Ghz (9.5x380)
    
    
    Clock Chip Control
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control --------- : [Enabled]
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ------- : [380Mhz]
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) ---- : [100] 
    
    
    C.I.A.2 ------------------------ : [Disabled]
    
    
    Advanced Clock Control ------- [Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Drive ---------------- : 800mV
    PCI Express Clock Drive -------- : 800mV
    CPU Clock Skew (ps) ------------ : 0ps
    MCH Clock Skew (ps) ------------ : 0ps
    
    
    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance ------------ : [Standard]
    Extreme Memory Profile - (XMP) - : [Disabled]
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch --------- : [Auto]
    System Memory Multiplier ------- : [Auto]
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) --------- : [1520]
    DRAM Timing Selectable --------- : [Manual]
    
    
    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time ------- 9  ---- : [9]
    tRCD  ------------------ 9  ---- : [9]
    tRP -------------------- 9  ---- : [9]
    tRAS  ------------------ 24 ---- : [24]
    
    
    Motherboard Voltage Control
    CPU
    Voltage Types--------- Normal ----- Current -----
    Load-Line Calibration ---------- : [Disabled]
    CPU Vcore ----------- 1.25000 -- : [1.30000]
    
    
    CPU Termination ----- 1.200V* -- : [1.220]
    CPU PLL ------------- 1.550V* -- : [1.550]
    
    
    CPU Reference ------- 0.805V* -- : [Auto]  
    
    
    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core ------------- 1.100V -- : [1.240]
    MCH Reference -------- 0.800V -- : [Auto]
    ICH I/O -------------- 1.550V -- : [1.550]
    ICH Core ------------- 1.100V -- : [1.100]
    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage --------- 1.800V -- : [1.900] !!!!!!!!!!!!!
    DRAM Termination ----- 0.900V -- : [Auto]
    Channel A Reference -- 0.900V -- : [Auto]
    Channel B Reference -- 0.900V -- : [Auto]
    
    
    Advanced Settings
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3 ---------- : [Disabled]
    No-Execute Memory Protect ------ : [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) -------- : [Disabled]
    C2/C2E State Support ----------- : [Disabled]
    x C4/C4E State Support --------- : [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2 (TM2) ---- : [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function  ------------- : [Disabled]
    Virtualization Technology ------ : [Disabled]
    
    
    Integrated Peripherals
    Legacy USB Storage Detect  ----- : [Enabled]
    I think if I can't get this working i'll need to get rid of these sticks and get a pair of G.SKILLs (F3-12800CL8D-8GBXM - RipjawsX XM | 2x4GB Kit)
    May have better luck with them.
    Do you think this rig will be able to handle it properly?
    GigaByte GA-EP45T-UD3LR F10 - 771 ghetto mod
    Intel® Xeon® Processor X5460 8.5x400 @ 1.275V - Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO (2 fans) w/ MX-2
    4xKingmax DDR3 2048MB FLGE85F-B8MF7 7-7-7-20 1600Mhz @ 1.8V
    GigaByte GTX460 1GB GV-N460OC-1GI GPU @ stock - stock cooled
    Codegen Briza 6066-CA FSP HEXA HE500 80+ PSU - 3 x Artic F8 Fan

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    Default Re: Need help | EP45T-UD3LR | Xeon X5460 | 1600 RAM settings

    DDR3 memory with P35 and 45 motherboards was often a hit or miss exercise in frustration.

    Many times we had to start with underclocking the memory at first and then see what it's fastest speeds were.

    A lot of time was spent stress testing with all three Prime95 tests; small FFT, large FFT and Blend.

    I would start with only 2 x 2GB memory modules installed at near stock cpu speeds
    • cpu: 8 x 402MHz = 3.216 GHz
    • memory: 3.20B x 402MHz = 1286MHz
    • memory timings from SPD: 8-8-8-22 where command rate will always be manually set = 2
    • DRAM Performance Enhance = Turbo might work OK at near stock settings.
    • The Turbo option should take care of tRD and the secondary memory settings with low overclocks.

    The EasyTune6 -> Advance -> Voltage screen-shot needs to be included when you are posting your results.
    Do not use ET6 to change any of these settings and close ET6 after you have captured all of your screen-shot information.

    Note: With higher overclocks, Cpu PLL and Cpu Termination (aka VTT) voltage settings will usually be seriously over-volted if either of these are set to AUTO.

    Static tRead Value (aka tRD or Performance Level in Memset) settings are sometimes set to zero in Memset if the AUTO setting is used.

    Beta bios F12E description for all three EP45T-UD3LR motherboard models (date = 2011/10/14): Improve memory compatibility

    My approach with 2 x 2GB of memory would be to keep cpu speeds in the 3.0 - 3.2GHz range and change the cpu multiplier and FSB to change the memory speed and timings. After you have several stable configurations with decent memory performance, you can then install all 8GB of memory, make some minor tweaks and then repeat the stress tests as you increase cpu speeds.

    I hope that you are familiar with loading and saving bios profiles.

    the board should be capable of 2200+ FSB
    Not very likely.
    Q9650 @ 4.10GHz [9x456MHz]
    P35-DS4 [rev: 2.0] ~ Bios: F14
    4x2GB OCZ Reaper PC2-8500 1094MHz @5-5-5-15
    MSI N460GTX Hawk Talon Attack (1GB) video card <---- SLI ---->
    Seasonic SS-660XP2 80 Plus Platinum psu (660w)
    WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data)
    Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD (boot)
    SLI @ 16/4 works when running HyperSLI
    Cooler Master 120XL Seidon push/pull AIO cpu water cooling
    Cooler Master HAF XB computer case (RC-902XB-KKN1)
    Asus VH242H 24" monitor [1920x1080]
    MSI N460GTX Hawk (1GB) video card
    Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
    win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium
    HT|Omega Claro plus+ sound card
    CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD UPS
    E6300 (R0) @ 3.504GHz [8x438MHz] ~~ P35-DS3L [rev: 1.0] ~ Bios: F9 ~~ 4x2GB Kingston HyperX T1 PC2-8500, 876MHz @4-4-4-10
    Seasonic X650 80+ gold psu (650w) ~~ Xigmatek Balder HDT 1283 cpu cooler ~~ Cooler Master CM 690 case (RC-690-KKN1-GP)
    Samsung 830 128GB SSD MZ-7PC128B/WW (boot) ~~ WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data) ~~ ZM-MFC2 fan controller
    HT|Omega Striker 7.1 sound card ~~ Asus VH242H monitor [1920x1080] ~~ Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
    win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium ~~ CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD U.P.S
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    Default Re: Need help | EP45T-UD3LR | Xeon X5460 | 1600 RAM settings

    Thanks for the tip!
    Now I updated to F12e and experimenting with it.
    It's sure more stable!

    Now I'm running at 400 with 1.8 DRAM Voltage
    However it is not stressed yet!

    CPU : 400x8.5 @ 1.2750V
    DRAM : 2:1 7-7-7-20 @ 1.8V
    MCH : 1.24V
    only 2 mem banks occupied

    CPU-Z Validator 4.0

    Need help | EP45T-UD3LR | Xeon X5460 | 1600 RAM settings-400x8-5_1-75_-_7-7-7-20_1-8-spi-jpg
    GigaByte GA-EP45T-UD3LR F10 - 771 ghetto mod
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    4xKingmax DDR3 2048MB FLGE85F-B8MF7 7-7-7-20 1600Mhz @ 1.8V
    GigaByte GTX460 1GB GV-N460OC-1GI GPU @ stock - stock cooled
    Codegen Briza 6066-CA FSP HEXA HE500 80+ PSU - 3 x Artic F8 Fan

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    Default Re: Need help | EP45T-UD3LR | Xeon X5460 | 1600 RAM settings

    Looks like a good start.

    From a web search, here is a screen-shot using EP45T-Extreme, Q9650 @ 4.617GHz and 4GB of memory at 1640MHz.



    Check out the EXTREME screen-shots by dinos22: [Team.AU]XFire HD4870X2, E8600, Gigabyte EP45T-EXTREME, Corsair DDR3 + Skulltrail fun
    Last edited by profJim; 09-15-2014 at 03:34 PM. Reason: typo
    Q9650 @ 4.10GHz [9x456MHz]
    P35-DS4 [rev: 2.0] ~ Bios: F14
    4x2GB OCZ Reaper PC2-8500 1094MHz @5-5-5-15
    MSI N460GTX Hawk Talon Attack (1GB) video card <---- SLI ---->
    Seasonic SS-660XP2 80 Plus Platinum psu (660w)
    WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data)
    Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD (boot)
    SLI @ 16/4 works when running HyperSLI
    Cooler Master 120XL Seidon push/pull AIO cpu water cooling
    Cooler Master HAF XB computer case (RC-902XB-KKN1)
    Asus VH242H 24" monitor [1920x1080]
    MSI N460GTX Hawk (1GB) video card
    Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
    win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium
    HT|Omega Claro plus+ sound card
    CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD UPS
    E6300 (R0) @ 3.504GHz [8x438MHz] ~~ P35-DS3L [rev: 1.0] ~ Bios: F9 ~~ 4x2GB Kingston HyperX T1 PC2-8500, 876MHz @4-4-4-10
    Seasonic X650 80+ gold psu (650w) ~~ Xigmatek Balder HDT 1283 cpu cooler ~~ Cooler Master CM 690 case (RC-690-KKN1-GP)
    Samsung 830 128GB SSD MZ-7PC128B/WW (boot) ~~ WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data) ~~ ZM-MFC2 fan controller
    HT|Omega Striker 7.1 sound card ~~ Asus VH242H monitor [1920x1080] ~~ Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
    win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium ~~ CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD U.P.S
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    Default Re: Need help | EP45T-UD3LR | Xeon X5460 | 1600 RAM settings

    Seems OK
    memtest86+ passed several times without error
    and i did a couple hours of p95 also

    temps look good to me
    Need help | EP45T-UD3LR | Xeon X5460 | 1600 RAM settings-temp-png

    i think its time to insert the other two stick and push a bit forward i will use this as a baseline.
    GigaByte GA-EP45T-UD3LR F10 - 771 ghetto mod
    Intel® Xeon® Processor X5460 8.5x400 @ 1.275V - Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO (2 fans) w/ MX-2
    4xKingmax DDR3 2048MB FLGE85F-B8MF7 7-7-7-20 1600Mhz @ 1.8V
    GigaByte GTX460 1GB GV-N460OC-1GI GPU @ stock - stock cooled
    Codegen Briza 6066-CA FSP HEXA HE500 80+ PSU - 3 x Artic F8 Fan

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    Default Re: Need help | EP45T-UD3LR | Xeon X5460 | 1600 RAM settings

    HI

    This is my first post. I was reading and found something maybe will be usefull. I see in CPU-z image for the X5460 CPU the intruction ESS4.1 is not recorded. Since Im planing buy this same board and this same CPU I read some good information. I found when trhis happens, wrong lectures from CPU-Z, is because the microcode of the CPU in the Bios need be updated. If this is the situation most probably the CPU will have serius troubles on memory tasks.
    Last edited by Juan90d1; 04-20-2015 at 07:25 AM. Reason: warning

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