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    Hi everyone! I'm new to all of the tweaking and overclocking and I was just wondering if someone could give me some very basic information. First, where the heck are the BIOS configurations? I did a search and found em in my C drive under a I3-- something file, and it said BIOS configuration, but it was a script file... So, where do I find the things I need to change that are mentioned in many guides on this site, and info is helpful.

    Second, how do I go about over clocking my comp, it sounds like it could give some good performance boosts, and how do I find out if its not already overclocked? again, any info is helpful, and greatly appreciated, thx, Mista K6

    (P.S. I have a Dell 8200, w/ a 1.9ghz intell pent. 4, 256mb RD PC800 RAM, and a 64mb nVidia graphics card, hope that helps...)

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    you enter the bios by pressing the DEL key right after the initial post - it's not part of Windows & you can't access it from inside of Windows

    there's probably not much you can work with in the bios - if it's a Dell you have - they're not real tweakable

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    ahhhh, so essentially dells are wicked simplified for everyday users, and not that tweakable (and I'm assuming overclockable too). Hmm... that sux, lol. Thanx anyways tho
    Well, I dunno, maybe someone could help me out with this: I'm trying to get as much performance out of my system as I can, but I dont know alot about comps and I'm sure as hell not gonna pay some guy to do it for me. Here are my stats, specifically, I looked em up, lol:

    Dell 8200 Series

    Intel Pentium 4 Processor at 1.9ghz

    256 MB PC800 RDRAM

    64mb nVidia GeForce 2 MX/MX400 graphics card

    30GB hardrive

    Windows XP Home Office Edition OS

    (I got this in nov. of 2001, so its somewhat new and I'm not going out to buy a new comp any time soon... Th:cry: )

    Anyone with, comments, suggestions, opinions, or any know how PLZ leave something, anythign helps cause I'm a total newb. Thanx again, Mista K6

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    if i were in your shoes I would buy a new mother board and case. look to spend just a little under $200 and make sure that you buy a good quality case and cpu cooler. Not only will this make tweaking more of a resonable idea, but also if you do the work your self you will learn a lot of new things by moving all the components from the dell to the new case. I suggest you shop around and find whats best for you. GL
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    You are probably in the same position as I am as far as overclocking is concerned. The video card is still overclockable but that is prolly about it. To o/c the video card download one of the nvidia o/c programs from guru3d.com (coolbits, rivatuner. etc.) and follow the tweaking guide from the home page of this site as it relates to video cards. Your system is somewhat better than what I'm working with but I'm thinking that you would prolly notice a big difference if you were to find the coin to double your ram and change out that GF2 video card for something better.


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    yah, I was def thinking about getting some more ram slapped into this thing this summer, specifically upgrading to 512 RDRAM. I was also considering upgrading from this 64mb GF2 to one of the newer 128 Radeon (I think that's what they're called). As far as getting a new cooler and converting all the stuff myself, I am nowhere near that level and would prolly blow up my comp, which is way too expensive of a mistake. Thanx for the input people, its been a big help.

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    It's refreshin' to see someone that ya don't have to :hammer: the answers into Mista K6 and becomin' very rare now. :thumb:

    Yes goin' to 512MB of memory will not only help XP but the hard drive as well. and this video performance graph maybe of some use to ya as well. ;)

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    That graph is missing the new FX cards. And I disagree with it....a friend of mine has a 9500 and my Geforce Spanks it! tho our sys configs are bout the same. He cant even run UT 2K3 on the card. He has called ATI about sending the card back but I am about as anti ATI as you can get after owning 2 of the cards i got bad performance and support to match ( granted that was older cards ) I am a die hard Nvidia person now. LONG LIVE GeFORCE

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    Well MistaK6, I have some bad news for you. I am in the process of rebuilding a Dell 8200 from work that had the motherboard go bad on it. As fas as overclocking the 8200, most are correct that the only tweaking you can do is with the video card. The Bios just doesn't have ANYTHING to facilitate overclocking the CPU or FSB. I spent alot of time working on this computer and the best you can do is add more ram. So. with that said, this is how I overclocked my 1.9 GHz CPU. I bought a new mobo. The via VL-33S for $30. Bought a new case with a new power supply. You have to get a new power supply. the one in the 8200 is only about 200W. You need a new heatsink and fan because dell uses a proprietary sysytem with an exaust tube that will not fit in a different case. I used some PC2100 I had laying around and am now looking to sell 256MB PC800. Hmmm, it's for sale, perhaps we should talk. Send me an email if you are interested. Make me an offer. I always like to help out someone a little less RAM lucky as myself.

    So I put everything in the case and TODAY is the day I fire it up and see how it works. I know there is PLENTY to work with in the VIA bios, so I am REALLY looking forward to oc'ing this ex-dell!!!

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    I suggest u just upgrade your video card and ram for now, and in the future if your still not satisfied and when u have the money u could use the components of the dell and build a whole new system, which you would already have a awesome video card and ram, so it would work out perfectly for you. Just shop around for an awesome video card, check out that albatron 4200 turbo that they reviewed here the other day.
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