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Thread: P4 2.4 OCed to 2.99




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    I recently built a new rig and I based a lot of the components that I bought on Tweaktown's Overclocking a 2.4 P4 experiment. They OCed a 2.4 to 2.88 on a Albatron PX845PE mobo, using OCZ PC3500 Ram, ..... You can check out what they used and came up with here on the site. Anyway, I have so far successfully OCed my rig up to 2.99 Gigs. The only major difference is that I'm using the all so wonderful Thermaltake Volcano 7+, which does an awesome job of keeping my chip temp usually below 40C. I have a couple of questions for Tweaktown and all you guys on the forum.
    First, obviously I don't want to ruin my chip, so am I pushing this thing too far as it is? And when OCers talk about it being stable, what exactly is stable? No crashes on UT2K3, No crashes on 3DMARK2001 benchmarking? I haven't had any of those so far.
    Second, what is a acceptable CPU temp? I know that if your CPU is pushing into the high 40's or into the 50's you are doing good. But, is 38-40 while playing UT2K3 for over an hour good?
    Lastly, why have I been able to OC my rig higher than what the Techs here at TT where able to do? Is it the Thermaltake HSF? hmm..... Any input is welcomed

    :group:

    -Hawks:cheers:
    <center>| Processor: P4 2.4B OCed @ 3.2Ghz | MoBo: Albatron PX845PE Pro II |
    | OS: Windows XP Pro | RAM: OCZ 512MB PC3500 OCed @ 445 mhz |
    | Graphics: Radeon ATI 9700 Pro @ 395/345 | Temp: 32C normal, 35C full |
    | 3DMark2001: 18094 | 3DMARK03: 5763 | PCMARK02: Score |
    | Sound: SB Live 5.1 | Cooling: Thermaltake Volcano 7+ HSF |
    | PSU: Antec TrueBlue 480W | Mouse: Logitech MX300 |</center>

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    I have my 2.53 oc'd to 3.515 (as you can see in my siggy) on a PX845PEV Pro (again as seen in sig)... On strictly air cooling (Volcano 7+). It runs stable on everything I've tossed at it so far (3.53 is relatively stable, but crashes under my game engine (very demanding) thus I run a little slower)... So to answer your question about pushing your processor... well, I'm pushing mine almost 1ghz above spec and have had no probs as of yet. But, to answer your other question, running your proc above it's rated frequency shortens the life of your cpu (you'll probably upgrade twice or so by the time it gets very unstable anyway heh)... CPU temp's under 40 are very good, inbetween 40 - 50 are acceptable... Over 50, time at looking for a better cooling solution (be it a case with better airflow if your confident it's your case not helping due to improper airflow; be it your cpu hsf or whatnot). If you rise over 60, I'd say it's time to take a good long look at exactly how everything is mounted (HSF on CPU, thermal paste properly put in place (eg., paper thin layer, too many people put too much on), case airflow, etc). If after all that your still running at 60, I'd suggest ya clock her back down, and set your voltages back to normal.

    Anyway, good luck :)
    <font size=1>Pentium 4 2.53GHz @ 3.515GHz (FSB: 185; VCore: 1.725)</font>
    <font size=1><a href="http://www.thermaltake.com/products/heatsink/v7plus.htm">ThermalTake Volcano 7+</a></font>
    <font size=1><a href="http://www.albatron.com.tw/product/PX845PEV_800.asp">Albatron PX845PEV-800</a></font>
    <font size=1>512MB Samsung DDR333 @ DDR370</font>
    <font size=1><a href="http://www.ati.com/products/pc/radeon9700pro/">Radeon 9700 Pro 128MB</a></font>
    <font size=1><a href="http://www.adaptec.com/worldwide/product/proddetail.html?prodkey=ASC-29160">Adaptec 29160 Ultra160 SCSI Controller</a></font>
    <font size=1><a href="http://www.seagate.com/cda/products/discsales/marketing/detail/0,1081,321,00.html">Seagate ST373405LW 73GB U160 SCSI</a></font>
    <font size=1>Enermax EG465P-VE 450watt PSU</font>
    <font size=1>CPU Temp (100%): 39 C; HDD Temp (100%): 31 C (100%); Chipset Temp (100%): 32 C</font>

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    Hey Suicide,

    Thanks for the 411 bro, so far everything is running great at 2.99. I just dled a great overclocking program that allowed me to tweak my Radeon 9700 Pro. It cranked my 3DMark2001SE score up to 16,298 with a slight OCing. Not bad, in my opinion. I don't get sys or CPU temps over 40C hardly ever, but my HD does usually run around 40 or 41C. Thats not too bad? I truly don't see any reason to push my rig any further, however as all OCers do, I prolly will.:D :p :devil win . I don't plan to get too crazy, like you have, but we will see... BTW, when you say I'll have to upgrade because I am OCing my chip, how long will this chip last? Will OCing my chip kill my it completely? And if so, how fast?:?:

    Again Thx,:thumb:

    -Hawks
    <center>| Processor: P4 2.4B OCed @ 3.2Ghz | MoBo: Albatron PX845PE Pro II |
    | OS: Windows XP Pro | RAM: OCZ 512MB PC3500 OCed @ 445 mhz |
    | Graphics: Radeon ATI 9700 Pro @ 395/345 | Temp: 32C normal, 35C full |
    | 3DMark2001: 18094 | 3DMARK03: 5763 | PCMARK02: Score |
    | Sound: SB Live 5.1 | Cooling: Thermaltake Volcano 7+ HSF |
    | PSU: Antec TrueBlue 480W | Mouse: Logitech MX300 |</center>

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawks
    Hey Suicide,

    Thanks for the 411 bro, so far everything is running great at 2.99. I just dled a great overclocking program that allowed me to tweak my Radeon 9700 Pro. It cranked my 3DMark2001SE score up to 16,298 with a slight OCing. Not bad, in my opinion. I don't get sys or CPU temps over 40C hardly ever, but my HD does usually run around 40 or 41C. Thats not too bad? I truly don't see any reason to push my rig any further, however as all OCers do, I prolly will.:D :p :devil win . I don't plan to get too crazy, like you have, but we will see... BTW, when you say I'll have to upgrade because I am OCing my chip, how long will this chip last? Will OCing my chip kill my it completely? And if so, how fast?:?:

    Again Thx,:thumb:

    -Hawks
    Ya tweaking your system (including your bios) helps w/ those 3dmark2001se scores :) I just broke 19 thousand (19,010) two weeks ago after doing some major tweaking :) Anyway, about your hdd temp question, without a fan on my 73gig scsi drive , or without a fan on my 60gig ide drive, both drives heat over 40 C (the scsi drive runs 'bout 80 C.. no joke :().. So needless to say, there's a 120mm fan infront of it :) 40 C is a little high for a hard drive, but "acceptable".
    <font size=1>Pentium 4 2.53GHz @ 3.515GHz (FSB: 185; VCore: 1.725)</font>
    <font size=1><a href="http://www.thermaltake.com/products/heatsink/v7plus.htm">ThermalTake Volcano 7+</a></font>
    <font size=1><a href="http://www.albatron.com.tw/product/PX845PEV_800.asp">Albatron PX845PEV-800</a></font>
    <font size=1>512MB Samsung DDR333 @ DDR370</font>
    <font size=1><a href="http://www.ati.com/products/pc/radeon9700pro/">Radeon 9700 Pro 128MB</a></font>
    <font size=1><a href="http://www.adaptec.com/worldwide/product/proddetail.html?prodkey=ASC-29160">Adaptec 29160 Ultra160 SCSI Controller</a></font>
    <font size=1><a href="http://www.seagate.com/cda/products/discsales/marketing/detail/0,1081,321,00.html">Seagate ST373405LW 73GB U160 SCSI</a></font>
    <font size=1>Enermax EG465P-VE 450watt PSU</font>
    <font size=1>CPU Temp (100%): 39 C; HDD Temp (100%): 31 C (100%); Chipset Temp (100%): 32 C</font>

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    Suicide,

    Sweet scores Bro!!! I just broke 16,000 :laugh: Couldn't even imagine getting into the 19k's:o I dled rivatuner2.0 and am having trouble trying to "turn/force" my 9700 Pro into a 9800 Pro? I have been to every forum imaginable trying to figure this thing out, but to no avail:hammer: I have started a thread under vid cards if you want to read my problems in detail. Feel free to help me out because I'm at a lose. I did see some serious improvements in my score after I installed and up the CC and MC speeds, but I can't figure how to use the open patch script under the power users tab?

    -Hawks
    <center>| Processor: P4 2.4B OCed @ 3.2Ghz | MoBo: Albatron PX845PE Pro II |
    | OS: Windows XP Pro | RAM: OCZ 512MB PC3500 OCed @ 445 mhz |
    | Graphics: Radeon ATI 9700 Pro @ 395/345 | Temp: 32C normal, 35C full |
    | 3DMark2001: 18094 | 3DMARK03: 5763 | PCMARK02: Score |
    | Sound: SB Live 5.1 | Cooling: Thermaltake Volcano 7+ HSF |
    | PSU: Antec TrueBlue 480W | Mouse: Logitech MX300 |</center>

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    Hey Guys, I was just interested how you find the CPU temperature from within Windows. Are there any software you are using? Please let me know because I want to see how hot my CPU gets at 100% load.

    Thanks in advance.
    ==| PC specs |==
    1. Intel Pentium 4 3.0C ghz
    2. Gigabyte 5900XT
    3. Gigabyte GA-8IPE1000 Pro
    4. Kingmax PC3200 DDR RAM (2 x 256mb on dual channel)
    5. Western Digital 80gb 7200rpm HD (8mb cache)

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    Hey Johnlui,

    I use a cool little utility called speedfan. When you launch it you can minimize it so that your CPU temp is in your taskbar. Here is the main link: http://www.almico.com/speedfan.php.

    -Hawks
    <center>| Processor: P4 2.4B OCed @ 3.2Ghz | MoBo: Albatron PX845PE Pro II |
    | OS: Windows XP Pro | RAM: OCZ 512MB PC3500 OCed @ 445 mhz |
    | Graphics: Radeon ATI 9700 Pro @ 395/345 | Temp: 32C normal, 35C full |
    | 3DMark2001: 18094 | 3DMARK03: 5763 | PCMARK02: Score |
    | Sound: SB Live 5.1 | Cooling: Thermaltake Volcano 7+ HSF |
    | PSU: Antec TrueBlue 480W | Mouse: Logitech MX300 |</center>

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    man how are you guys overclocking it so much and still keep it that cool. i've got a palmino 2100XP+ with a vantec aeroflow HSF and idle it's running at about 39 degress and when playing games it shoots up to about 45. plus i've got 5 fans to help cool it :(

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    Hawks,

    Could I bother you for your setting to get the 3.06? I'm running the same setup, minus the 3500 RAM. I'm just curious if I could get more outta my 2700 RAM. Thanks!
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    Combinator,

    Sure Bro, but I fear your ram will hold back your sys. What is it rated at for speed? Anyway, Here are my settings, I have my Core voltage @ 1.575 from stock 1.525. I have the DDR ratio set at 2.6, not the 2.66 turbo mode. If I was you, I would leave your ratio at 2.5 and that way you won't be OCing your RAM so much. I have my AGP Voltage @ 2.6 and my FSB is @ 170, giving 3.06 Ghz.:D With my FSB @ 170, my RAM is running @ 427 mhz. Not too bad, but it's rated for 433, but I haven't been able to get it that high and stable. I didn't real change that much besides the VCore, FSB, and upped the AGP volts to 2.6. Good luck and let me know how it turns out.

    Hey StainXzero, I use the Thermaltake Volcano 7+ and it keeps my sys below 40C pretty much at all times. I only have two intake fans and two exhaust fans in my case too, so the Volcano does a hell of a job.

    -Hawks:cheers:
    <center>| Processor: P4 2.4B OCed @ 3.2Ghz | MoBo: Albatron PX845PE Pro II |
    | OS: Windows XP Pro | RAM: OCZ 512MB PC3500 OCed @ 445 mhz |
    | Graphics: Radeon ATI 9700 Pro @ 395/345 | Temp: 32C normal, 35C full |
    | 3DMark2001: 18094 | 3DMARK03: 5763 | PCMARK02: Score |
    | Sound: SB Live 5.1 | Cooling: Thermaltake Volcano 7+ HSF |
    | PSU: Antec TrueBlue 480W | Mouse: Logitech MX300 |</center>

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