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  • 9800XT or 9900 PRO

    Should I buy the 9800XT? or just wait for the 9900? Does anyone know when it is coming out by any chance? Thanks,

    Radeon 9800XT: 8 pipelines, 412MHz core output, 365Mhz memory.

    Radeon 9900 Pro: 12 pipelines, 580Mhz core output, 700Mhz memory.

  • #2
    Isn't 9900 Pro the R400? Are you in major need of a new video card? If you need one, I would get a 9800 Pro for $300 and then wait until next year and buy the R400 (or whatever the code name is).

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    • #3
      Where did you get this information about the 580Mhz core? To my knowledge they haven't said much at all about this GPU and that sounds high to me.

      The XT won't do anything the Pro can't except for higher clocks on the memory. That isn't worth the extra $150-200 you will pay.

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      • #4
        glocc9: ATI's next high-end graphics card will be the R420-Loki, which should be released around March 2004.

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        • #5
          Alright thanks a lot for the advice, I think im just gunna keep my 9800 Pro cause the "loki" is around the corner.

          Soul- Friend sent me that info through msn, no clue if its right or not

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          • #6
            Ohh, I didn't read your sig. You made a good decision because the 9800 Pro will definitely last you until March.

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            • #7
              I fail to see the use or practicallity of upgrading from a 9800 pro anytime in the next 12 months. I would bet the only program or app that has ever used the dx9 in your card is 3d '03 or aquamark3. Just out of curiosity, what card did you have before the current one?
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              • #8
                used to have a geforce4600

                Worked good for counter-strike lol. Since I quit that I decided to go buy halo, and to my suprise it was a dx9 game and my card wasn't compatible. So I was thinking bout buying the 9800XT came here asked, asked around some more, then decided I should just get a 9800pro

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                • #9
                  I also just bought halo the day it came out. It works great with my ti4800se which is a 8x ti4400. At all highest settings. I am running it at 4x which makes no real difference anyway. I already finnished the game. No need to upgrade here. What wasnt compatable about that card?
                  athlon xp-m@2456mhz(12x204)
                  tt aquariusII liquid cooled/ arctic silver ceramique
                  asus a7n8xe-dlx
                  thermaltake xaserIII lanfire
                  bfg 6800gt
                  seagate sataII 250gb/seagate 7200rpm 160gb ide
                  samsung dvdrw
                  2x1024 kingston hyper-x pc3200/ windows xp pro sp3
                  logitech mx518/ logitech wingman rumble
                  2x samsung 955df 19"/ canon i960
                  creative x-fi fatal1ty 64mb/ altec lansing 251-5.1
                  mushkin 550w

                  opteron 146 @ 2850 (10x285)
                  DFI infinity nf4 ultra
                  thermaltake tsunami dream -black
                  seagate sataII 500gb
                  evga 8600gt oc ssc edition
                  samsung sata dvd-rw
                  2x1024 ocz black
                  logitech ifeel/ nec accusync 75f
                  ocz fatal1ty 550w

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                  • #10
                    Yeah Halo works just fine on a Ti4600 DX8 video card.

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                    • #11
                      dx 8.1
                      athlon xp-m@2456mhz(12x204)
                      tt aquariusII liquid cooled/ arctic silver ceramique
                      asus a7n8xe-dlx
                      thermaltake xaserIII lanfire
                      bfg 6800gt
                      seagate sataII 250gb/seagate 7200rpm 160gb ide
                      samsung dvdrw
                      2x1024 kingston hyper-x pc3200/ windows xp pro sp3
                      logitech mx518/ logitech wingman rumble
                      2x samsung 955df 19"/ canon i960
                      creative x-fi fatal1ty 64mb/ altec lansing 251-5.1
                      mushkin 550w

                      opteron 146 @ 2850 (10x285)
                      DFI infinity nf4 ultra
                      thermaltake tsunami dream -black
                      seagate sataII 500gb
                      evga 8600gt oc ssc edition
                      samsung sata dvd-rw
                      2x1024 ocz black
                      logitech ifeel/ nec accusync 75f
                      ocz fatal1ty 550w

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                      • #12
                        At all highest settings
                        Thats insane, when I was using my geforce I was bearly able to play 1024x768 on low settings, did they come out with new drivers or something?

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                        • #13
                          Maybe there was something wrong with your card. I have tried this game on a few different cards. An mx440 64mb(really bit badly), msi ti4200 64mb(could have used a bit of oc, the owner is a wimp), radeon 9000 non pro 64mb(could not work fluidly on high gfx settings, no oc, locked), radeon 9000pro 64mb(worked quite smooth @300/300), radeon 9000pro 128mb(worked much better than the 64mb r9000 or ti4200 @only 285/285). Overall, I believe the amount of memory played a big role in performance. Just like in 3d '03, this is the type of game that dips into the other 64mb of mem. Especially when lots of bad guys and explosions are on screen.
                          At the moment, after a format, my ti is @stock speeds and it is totally playable and smooth. Before the new hd, halo was a bit buggy, but so were other things. How much mem did your old card have?
                          athlon xp-m@2456mhz(12x204)
                          tt aquariusII liquid cooled/ arctic silver ceramique
                          asus a7n8xe-dlx
                          thermaltake xaserIII lanfire
                          bfg 6800gt
                          seagate sataII 250gb/seagate 7200rpm 160gb ide
                          samsung dvdrw
                          2x1024 kingston hyper-x pc3200/ windows xp pro sp3
                          logitech mx518/ logitech wingman rumble
                          2x samsung 955df 19"/ canon i960
                          creative x-fi fatal1ty 64mb/ altec lansing 251-5.1
                          mushkin 550w

                          opteron 146 @ 2850 (10x285)
                          DFI infinity nf4 ultra
                          thermaltake tsunami dream -black
                          seagate sataII 500gb
                          evga 8600gt oc ssc edition
                          samsung sata dvd-rw
                          2x1024 ocz black
                          logitech ifeel/ nec accusync 75f
                          ocz fatal1ty 550w

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                          • #14
                            That wasn't a msi card was it? The guy with the msi ti4200 64mb 4x agp has the same mobo as you and an xp2100. He swaped that card to another machine recently due to missing dll and vxd files when using the same asus mobo. He got both the board and card when just when 8x came out, and it always had wierd jumpy gfx problems when playing ultra high res games.(thats why I felt the urge to oc) I still think he did not use proper mobo chipset drivers and relied on xp to have them like most default wimps do)(try that with a k7s5a pro, lol). I am not assuming you had improper drivers as well. But were also talking about someone who downgraded to a fx5600(thinking it was an upgrade) to replace that ti4200.
                            Just to be sure, I will test the game on his other rig, P4 2.0 with the old ti4200. And also retest it on his asus board with new fx5600. I will post back with my observations.
                            athlon xp-m@2456mhz(12x204)
                            tt aquariusII liquid cooled/ arctic silver ceramique
                            asus a7n8xe-dlx
                            thermaltake xaserIII lanfire
                            bfg 6800gt
                            seagate sataII 250gb/seagate 7200rpm 160gb ide
                            samsung dvdrw
                            2x1024 kingston hyper-x pc3200/ windows xp pro sp3
                            logitech mx518/ logitech wingman rumble
                            2x samsung 955df 19"/ canon i960
                            creative x-fi fatal1ty 64mb/ altec lansing 251-5.1
                            mushkin 550w

                            opteron 146 @ 2850 (10x285)
                            DFI infinity nf4 ultra
                            thermaltake tsunami dream -black
                            seagate sataII 500gb
                            evga 8600gt oc ssc edition
                            samsung sata dvd-rw
                            2x1024 ocz black
                            logitech ifeel/ nec accusync 75f
                            ocz fatal1ty 550w

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by glocc9
                              used to have a geforce4600

                              Worked good for counter-strike lol. Since I quit that I decided to go buy halo, and to my suprise it was a dx9 game and my card wasn't compatible. So I was thinking bout buying the 9800XT came here asked, asked around some more, then decided I should just get a 9800pro
                              Uh I run Halo on my Ti4400 system, runs fine.

                              Run the updater to patch the game. I am using 52.16 drivers.

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