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  • X58A-UD7 and 6GB Transcend axeRam D3 2000+ problems (BSOD)

    Hi all!

    My first post here, congratulations for all your efforts about helping people struggling with voltages and Blue Screens...

    This is my newest Combo:
    Gigabyte X58A-UD7
    Intel i7 950 D0
    6GB Transcend DDR3 2000+ CL9
    CoolerMaster PSU 750W

    My problem?

    Blue Screens (0x00000024 error) caused by faulty settings. Once I was activating XMP profile, I couldn't run the pc safely over 20mins. Even when setting manually the latencies, (9-9-9-24), the machine wasn't stable enough. As reading here, I should tweak QPI and stuff I never seen before (last pc setup 4 years old).

    Decided to leave it at default settings for try and error and it seems to be stable enough without any errors for the moment for consequent 24 hours (@1000MHz).

    I'd like a suggestion from you guys, about DRAM voltages and QPI. No need for pushing to the limit for the moment, just to have it working as expected.

    Some screenshots from CPU-Z

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    Last edited by Rami3D; 12-01-2010, 11:03 AM.

  • #2
    Re: X58A-UD7 and 6GB Transcend axeRam D3 2000+ problems (BSOD)

    do you want to run ram at 2000mhz? your best disabling xmp and manually setting ram speed/voltages and timings,it will be more reliable

    or using xmp and tweaking dram and qpi/vtt voltages 000124 error? that usually means not enough qpi/vtt voltage

    set dram voltage according to ram spec either 1.5v or 1.66v,then set the qpi/vtt to atleast 1.350000v(may need more) for 2000mhz ram speed
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    • #3
      Re: X58A-UD7 and 6GB Transcend axeRam D3 2000+ problems (BSOD)

      Thanx for the quick response!

      So, a quick approach enabling XMP profile and setting manually timings (9-9-9-24) voltage for DRAM and QPI would do the trick?

      Do you suggest clocking the RAM lower at 1600 with lower timings? (I think 7-7-7-20)

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      • #4
        Re: X58A-UD7 and 6GB Transcend axeRam D3 2000+ problems (BSOD)

        its up to you,im sat here with my ram at 1800mhz,but you would need looser timings of say 8-8-8-24 for 1800mhz,try 1600mhz,it depends on you bclk too what you can set the mem speed at,i have to use a 180x21 cpu bclk to run ram at 1800mhz and 200x21 to run them at 1600mhz when overclocked

        a standard 133x12 mem multi would give you 1596mhz speed any higher and you would need to adjust/raise the bclk

        set dram voltage according to ram,and try with 1.315000v qpi/vtt for 1600mhz
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        • #5
          Re: X58A-UD7 and 6GB Transcend axeRam D3 2000+ problems (BSOD)

          Thanks again for the response!

          I'll play around safe for beginning. I've already set it @1600 and seems stable.
          Will try BCLK adjustments, and DRAM, QPI/VTT voltage.

          Too much reading for first day...

          I'll let you know whether it worked or not.

          Cheers!

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          • #6
            Re: X58A-UD7 and 6GB Transcend axeRam D3 2000+ problems (BSOD)

            Things seem much more complex than I expected them to be...

            Memory @ 1600MHz (9-9-9-24), All other settings to Auto. 133x12 as you suggested worked great. CPU Clock ratio 23x (3.06GHz). DDR Voltage 1.5V, QPI 1.175V.

            No big deal and no noticeable difference from default 1066MHz (7-7-7-20).

            When trying to slightly adjust QPI and Dram Voltage, I get no boots at all, or at best situation booting till the black loading Screen of Win7 is gone and again a blue screen and a reboot.

            What's next? Any suggestions? Are there any "bottlenecks" enabled that shouldn't in order to work as expected?

            ps: I'm with default i7 Cooler, tomorrow I'm getting a
            Prolimatech Megahalems Rev.2.

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            • #7
              Re: X58A-UD7 and 6GB Transcend axeRam D3 2000+ problems (BSOD)

              you should be able to adjust those voltages without issues,did you disable xmp and set everything above manually? 1.175v isnt enough for qpi/vtt and thats where your rebooting is coming from,you need to set that to around 1.30000v and dram voltage according to ram,then press f10 save and exit,you can also set the uncore freq to 24x if your using a 12x memory multiplier

              just try with 1.25000v for qpi/vtt and see if it lets you set that amount
              Gigabyte z77x UP4-TH F11c Modded Bios
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              Thermalright Silver Arrow Cpu Cooler
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              Logitech X-530 5.1 Speakers
              Lite-On iHAS124-19 24x Sata DVDRW
              K-World Hybrid DVB-T 210SE Digital T.V Card
              L.G E2260V L.E.D 1920x1080 Monitor
              Xfx Pro 750w silver rated Psu 80+
              Fractal Arc Midi Case

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              • #8
                Re: X58A-UD7 and 6GB Transcend axeRam D3 2000+ problems (BSOD)

                Again, thanks for your intense support! ;)

                I'm starting getting the point here.

                QPI is already at 1.315V and running smoothly. Should I set manually the CPU Voltage also? It seems around 1.3V, but at idle it gets lower than 1V (~0.9V).

                Now, one thing that's struggling me is the FSB:DRAM ratio. It's 2:10 and this is my bottleneck.

                How should I lower the ratio?

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                • #9
                  Re: X58A-UD7 and 6GB Transcend axeRam D3 2000+ problems (BSOD)

                  you could set uncore freq to 25x and set system performance enhance to extreme or turbo,i dont know whether it will be less stable you will have to test,if your at stock cpu clocks you can set cpu voltage to normal in cpu voltage list

                  you could bring it down by trying tighter timings of 7-8-7-24 or 8-8-8-24 @1600mhz?
                  Last edited by wazza300; 12-01-2010, 05:52 PM.
                  Gigabyte z77x UP4-TH F11c Modded Bios
                  Intel i7 3770k 24/[email protected] 1.38v Turbo llc +0.165v dvid multithreading enabled
                  Samsung Green(MV-3V4G3D/US) 8GB @2133mhz 9-10-10-21-1t 1.55v
                  Thermalright Silver Arrow Cpu Cooler
                  1xSamsung 840 pro 256 Gb SSD windows 8.1 pro 64bit
                  1xSamsung f4 HD204UI 2tb hard drive Storage
                  Powercolor 7970 3gb V3 @1150mhz core/1700mhz mem,1.150v Accelero aftermarket air cooler 55c max
                  Razer Lycosa Keyboard
                  Logitech X-530 5.1 Speakers
                  Lite-On iHAS124-19 24x Sata DVDRW
                  K-World Hybrid DVB-T 210SE Digital T.V Card
                  L.G E2260V L.E.D 1920x1080 Monitor
                  Xfx Pro 750w silver rated Psu 80+
                  Fractal Arc Midi Case

                  http://i38.tinypic.com/14myvfa.jpg x58 ud5 <=3.8ghz + 4.2ghz Overclock Template!!
                  http://www.youtube.com/user/warren304#p/u Visit Me On Youtube

                  Lots Of Gaming Videos With X58 Ud5 System And Gpu On My Youtube Channel!!
                  Just Uploaded New Battlefield 4 Video!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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                  • #10
                    Re: X58A-UD7 and 6GB Transcend axeRam D3 2000+ problems (BSOD)

                    Thanks again. Appreciate it!

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                    • #11
                      Re: X58A-UD7 and 6GB Transcend axeRam D3 2000+ problems (BSOD)

                      Last info before going to sleep...

                      I managed to get it working as far as I can.

                      CPU CLOCK RATIO: 17x (3,57GHz)
                      UNCORE CLOCK RATIO: 16x
                      BLCK FREQUENCY: 210MHz
                      SPD: 8x
                      MEM FREQ: 1680MHz (9-9-9-24) * I might check it with 8-8-8-24 latencies.

                      QPI/VTT: 1,315V
                      DRAM: 1,5V

                      Now, FSB:DRAM Ratio is at 2:8.

                      This is the best setup I could have till now.
                      Working flawlessly without any Error messages.

                      This setup is about 17% faster on rendering a scene in 3d studio MAX than the first one working.

                      More news tomorrow with new Cooler on CPU.

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                      • #12
                        Re: X58A-UD7 and 6GB Transcend axeRam D3 2000+ problems (BSOD)

                        Sounds like you are doing just fine man, keep at it!!

                        2000Mhz isn't really ideal for daily 24/7 on most CPU's like you have, but it can be done if you want and are not afraid of voltages.

                        For 2000Mhz memory speed you may need around 1.45-1.5+ QPI/Vtt, depending on the timings, and your CPU itself.

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                        • #13
                          Re: X58A-UD7 and 6GB Transcend axeRam D3 2000+ problems (BSOD)

                          Thanx man!

                          Probably, the memories I took in advance, weren't the best choice I could do for less than 2000MHz usage. Actually, 1600 works just better than higher MHz with higher latencies. So 8-8-8-24 I'm getting, is bottleneck for my setup.

                          Today I'm installing a new cooler (Coolermaster V6GT) and I'll check if I can replace the memories with other faster ones in lower Mhz.

                          I'll keep you informed.

                          Thank you all for your kind and generous help!

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                          • #14
                            Re: X58A-UD7 and 6GB Transcend axeRam D3 2000+ problems (BSOD)

                            yes 2000mhz ram is not ideal for 24/7 use. unless you can keep voltage down. If you havent seen them see my sig for bsod codes.
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                            • #15
                              Re: X58A-UD7 and 6GB Transcend axeRam D3 2000+ problems (BSOD)

                              I wish I have seen them before fooling around struggling with dll's and other fixes. :)

                              Nevertheless, glad I found out what it was, due to a post here I think!

                              I kept your signature for future reference, I still haven't got an error else than 0x000000124.

                              One thing that keeps me wondering now, is if I have to set manually the Voltage on CPU rather than leaving it to auto. With intel's default cooler, CPU (@ 3,57GHz) was around 48 deg (Celsius) idle, while with V6GT 32deg. Any suggestions for voltage around 4,0GHz?
                              Last edited by Rami3D; 12-03-2010, 03:39 PM.

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