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Thread: Barton vs Thoroughbred




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    Hey ya'll amd fans, which of those two performs better at stock? :)

    AMD Athlon XP2500+ Barton 1833MHz/1.83GHz 128/512Kb 333MHz 0.13 bulk SocketA XP2500BA


    AMD Athlon XP2600+ Thoroughbred 2083MHz/2.083GHz 256Kb 333MHz 0.13 bulk SocketA

    /THX



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    I'm trying to make a decision between those two CPU's myself

    but what I'm more interested in, is which one overclocks better :?:
    I've gone too far and need to move on!

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    I've heard that barton oc really good, the Barton chip is like $10 cheaper than the Thoroughbred atm to. It's the extended cache that draws my attension. :)

    I was looking at Epox 8rda+, what was that "+" standing for again..? Was it needed in order to support Barton or what?


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    don't know what the "+" is for :shrug:

    nforce2 boards (specificly the ASUS A7N8X Deluxe) can unlock a barton right? the same way they can unlock a t-bred?

    ...I'm planning on researching the answer, I just thought I'd ask
    :cheers:

    btw, most, if not all, nforce2 boards will support a barton with a bios upgrade

    EDIT: yea, I've answered my own question...unlocked from factory, just like t-bred b....i guess it shouldn't be a surprise since since the only difference between the cores is the cache size :)
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    My thoery is: The barton will OC more. This is because of the extra L2, which allows for a higher rating at lower clock speeds, and thus less heat, meaning more OCing. Ive never tried OCing either chips though so dont quote me on this, its just my own thoery.

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    Personally the XP2600+ works better for me and with mine at an easy 2.26GHz it flies and at stock speeds the XP2600+ is still the faster which is why I stick with T'bred CPU's (AMD lost the plot IMHO with Barton ratin's).

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    the barton 2500 oc's pretty good but you gotta get the aqxea stepping, from what i've read...if you wanna good non-barton, just get the 1700+ DLT3C chips...unless L2 cache is that important to you.....
    Barton 2500+ (218x11) - SLK800A w/Vantec Tornado - G-byte GA7N400L1 - 256x2 TwinMOS DDR400 - BBA R9600Pro - Antec 350W

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    Quote Originally Posted by The__tweaker
    I've heard that barton oc really good, the Barton chip is like cheaper than the Thoroughbred atm to. It's the extended cache that draws my attension. :)

    I was looking at Epox 8rda+, what was that "+" standing for again..? Was it needed in order to support Barton or what?

    the + means that extra IEEEfirewire and maybe onboard Soundstorm 6.1
    and every nforce Ultra 400chip support Barton and for the oldest version I think it is better to flash the Bios
    The extra L2 gives you abit faster in some applications and increase bandwith good for playing games
    I might be wrong though:rolleyes:
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    i believe it's a 5-7% increase at most...but i think i did read 15% for some non-everyday applications, tho....i'd rather just go with the higher speed and lower L2...just my 2 cents....
    Barton 2500+ (218x11) - SLK800A w/Vantec Tornado - G-byte GA7N400L1 - 256x2 TwinMOS DDR400 - BBA R9600Pro - Antec 350W

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    This mabye creeping away from the topic but i will post it anyway :)

    Im looking to buy a new AMD mobo currently, im looking at either the -
    Epox 8RDA3+ nForce2 OR Asus A7N8X Deluxe nForce2

    They are both the same price, which one runs better :P

    Thanks

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