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Thread: AMD Dual core: Opteron Denmark or X2 Toledo?




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    Thumbs down AMD Dual core: Opteron Denmark or X2 Toledo?

    Opteron Dual cores are receiving much attention; good price and over-clockability. Apparently almost identical to their X2 counterparts at less cost but how identical? The 170 listed at Newe&& is with a Denmark Core @ 2Ghz vs. the X2 4400 Toledo core (+200MHz) both with 1MB cache / core; are there more differences than the 'cool and quiet' technology and 200 MHz? Both sport 90nm process types; 1MB cache etc...
    Am at the CPU purchasing point in my Dual core system... will appreciate your information and input!

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    Default Re: AMD Dual core: Opteron Denmark or X2 Toledo?

    The Opteron core CPUs are proving to be the best overclockers in AMD's lineup, easily outperforming any and all other AMD64 CPUs, including the FX series. THey are also impossible to find and even harder to buy. If you can wait, get the Opteron whenever they are finally available. If not, the X2 CPUs are also an excellent choice.
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    Default Re: AMD Dual core: Opteron Denmark or X2 Toledo?

    Quote Originally Posted by casecutter
    The Opteron core CPUs are proving to be the best overclockers in AMD's lineup, easily outperforming any and all other AMD64 CPUs, including the FX series. THey are also impossible to find and even harder to buy. If you can wait, get the Opteron whenever they are finally available. If not, the X2 CPUs are also an excellent choice.
    They are?

    So let me get this strait, you're saying this is better than this? Correct me if I'm wrong Wayne but according to those pages, stock speeds are clearly stated as Denmark core @ 2.0 GHz..as you said, but Toledo core @ 2.2 GHz. Am I missing something or what?

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    Default Re: AMD Dual core: Opteron Denmark or X2 Toledo?

    Quote Originally Posted by DemyZe
    Am I missing something or what?
    Yes. The overclockability is better. Also, the vast majority of the processors on the page you linked to are socket 940, but they are indeed quite possible to find.

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    Default Re: AMD Dual core: Opteron Denmark or X2 Toledo?

    Don't let clock speeds dominant what processor is better when your dealing with amds.

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    Default Re: AMD Dual core: Opteron Denmark or X2 Toledo?

    Alright, I see that I actually misread wayne's original post..nevertheless I'm also in the same boat as wayne in that I'm building a dual core system.

    So is what cc said correct in that the opterons out-perform the athlon x2?
    Er, more importantly, which one would you suggest getting?

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    Default Re: AMD Dual core: Opteron Denmark or X2 Toledo?

    Well, I think he was trying to imply that they outperform other CPUs in overclocking. The Opteron 170 is slower than a stock X2 4400, but it's not even comparable after they're overclocked. If you're going to overclock, the Opteron is the obvious choice.

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    Default Re: AMD Dual core: Opteron Denmark or X2 Toledo?

    I see, thanks. That was kind of the conclusion I was coming to as I was reading a thread on anandtech about it.
    What's the multiplier of the 4400 and is it locked?

    More or less, I'm just wondering if the opteron can actually OC to a higher speed even after the athlon x2 has been OCed the same amount. Even though at that point the hundred or so $$ might be worth saving when I think about it..
    Last edited by DemyZe; 11-19-2005 at 12:46 AM.

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    Default Re: AMD Dual core: Opteron Denmark or X2 Toledo?

    Quote Originally Posted by DemyZe
    What's the multiplier of the 4400 and is it locked?
    It's 11 (just divide 2200MHz by the 200MHz base clock), and it's top-locked, meaning you can put it anywhere at 11 or lower, but not higher.

    Quote Originally Posted by DemyZe
    More or less, I'm just wondering if the opteron can actually OC to a higher speed even after the athlon x2 has been OCed the same amount.
    You're question doesn't quite make sense, but the Opteron can OC to a higher speed.

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    Default Re: AMD Dual core: Opteron Denmark or X2 Toledo?

    Okay right, now I get it. But yeah, that's pretty much what I was asking was even if the x2 was OCed to it's max, could the Opteron OC to an even higher speed even though the 170s stock clock is lower..which that has already been covered.

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