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    You claim you have a say in the government because you can vote. Incorrect. If you didn't vote, then the outcome would be the same. There is never just a one vote difference. And if there was, then what right would you have to decide for others? If you want your vote to count, then the marketplace is where each individual can express their desires and get their way. If you want meat rather than tofu, you can vote with your wallet. Whereas if you want government to put money into meat rather than tofu, and enough millions of other people just happen to agree with you, only then will you get your way. And you call me utopian!? You favour majority rule, and seem to believe that you will always be in the majority. You are the utopian.

    If is company provides a faulty product, and for whatever reason they are not held accountable, then because there are competitors, all is not lost. But if a product the government provides is faulty, like law and order, then since there is no competitor to turn to, all is lost. You are the person who has blind faith in a monopoly, rather than many freely competing organisations. You are the utopian, not me.

    I would always trust organisations that get all their income through voluntary customer payments made in exchange for the worth they can provide customers, rather than government who collect so many taxes simply because if someone doesn't pay they'll be imprisoned. With government the collection of payment is completed separated from the provision of service; with business it is very intricately intertwined.

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    OMG People, this has turned into the longest post comp. Theres just to much here for me to read right now. lol
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    What happened to the original thread? Intel Core2 Quad: Q6600 vs Q8200 - Which is better?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Panarchy View Post
    I would always trust organisations that get all their income through voluntary customer payments made in exchange for the worth they can provide customers, rather than government who collect so many taxes simply because if someone doesn't pay they'll be imprisoned. With government the collection of payment is completed separated from the provision of service; with business it is very intricately intertwined.

    Panarchy
    You call me the utopian while saying things like that? You are the one advocating trusting commercial entities to secure society. That's ALOT of trust. No, I've said nothing that makes me a utopian. I've been nothing but negative about humanity and it's ability to act as responsibly as you think they can be.

    A realist is what I am, not a utopian. I'm realistic about how ugly people already are, and how ugly they would be with all the stops pulled out in a government-less society. The only one between the 2 of us talking about trusting payed entities here is you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alan1476 View Post
    What happened to the original thread? Intel Core2 Quad: Q6600 vs Q8200 - Which is better?
    I don't know. I think it was pretty much dead when Panarchy and I decided to debate the finer points of political and social development. We COULD stop, if you want us to. But this thread will quickly sink out of view and die and sad and unsung death. Isn't it better that we keep it alive, even if not on topic anymore? :p

    Sorry, but we can take it to PM if we're offending anybody :D
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    You are not offending me, I was just interested in the original topic and reading the members replys. I can find out what I need to know in another thread. Have fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Panarchy View Post
    You claim you have a say in the government because you can vote. Incorrect. If you didn't vote, then the outcome would be the same.
    I call BS on this statement. You called everybody else uneducated yet you make completely BOGUS statements like this? Ummmm, sorry, your missed the Democrats sweeping the republicans out of office thanks to a country pissed off and sick of their crap. Your initial claim that:

    Quote Originally Posted by Panarchy View Post
    WOW, never knew you the masses were so uneducated...

    The government is above the law, even though the government is ONLY a group (albeit a very large one), who is above the law.
    Shows you have no clue. First off, I'm NOT the masses, nor am I uneducated. Never make that mistake again.

    Secondly, maybe YOUR country is like that, mine is not. We can change our government AND JUST DID. If you cannot, that's a sad thing for you. Voting makes a real difference. Apathy like yours is what holds votes back. It's the attitude of "it won't matter anyway" that is the REAL flaw in democracy. People are lazy and use all kinds of excuses to NOT MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

    I've served in my nation's military honorably. I've contributed to my society with hard work and voting based on my conscience and what I think is the right thing to do, not based on some artificial party lines or fantasy of a utopian world where people don't need laws and governments. Anarchy is an excuse to be socially lazy.
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    You claim that if more people vote for one party than vote for the other party, then that party will win. Fine. But isn't that majority rule? Where is the justice in that? What if you are in the minority; do you get a say then? If you are in the minority you still have to pay taxes which go to things you disapprove of. Where is the justice in that?

    When I call you utopian what I mean is that you have faith in government. And, as I said, with government services, their supply is completely separated from the collection of payment, so whether they are useful, beneficial or what the people want is hidden from view. Whereas, with business, those who pay them must be convinced that they want the service the business provides.

    I do not claim that a world without government would be perfect. All I claim is that there are many reasons to be against government. Here are two:

    (1) Government gets its money through force, whereas business gets its money through giving customers something they have unanimously said that they want -- if they don't want what the business provides, then they do not pay for it and do not have the business forced upon them. Government is coercive. Business is voluntary.

    (2) Government does not allow competitors, so there is little incentive for it to continually improve its services, since there is no risk that they will be outcompeted. With business, on the other hand, competition is allowed, and there is constant striving to satisfy customers more than their competitors.

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    Ding Ding, Round 2?
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    The other guy i's Dong!
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