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Thread: Anyone remember the 486 days when AMD was the chip to avoid?




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    Yeah, no one really in place to compete with the two of them.

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    So very true. Now that Motorola has pretty much left the market. VIA is still a very minor player. China will eventually become a player, they are just beginning to explore the possibilities.

    The other players in the field are catering to specialized market segments with their products (costly, too).

    So, AMD and Intel are pretty much it for the consumer market. Again not to discount VIA, because some people love their products for building noiseless systems (or very near noiseless).

    I think VIA will improve...looking at the specs for their next product line is not too bad. Considering Intel just announce they will stop productionof the P!!!. I think VIA will probably pick up where this product niche left off.

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    Again consumers are so warped in their thinking in the first place as they seldom need the speed that either AMD or Intel are supplying. Everyone wants th have the fastest, the best, the biggest & the baddest. Shhhhh - someone may catch on soon.

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    Yeah, the AMD share of the market is growing, but that of course doesn't make Intel the "bad" chip! I think there is room for BOTH! It is what keeps the prices DOWN and that is what we as consumers want! I hope that NEITHER Intel OR AMD gain a HUGE market share over the other, because as it is now, prices are being kept in check by the competition and it also keeps each company pressing forward with innovation....something that the Chipset makers would have little of if either one controlled the market totally! (what woulkd be the point of making faster chips if you already were selling to as many people as you could??) So I think the answer lies in competition....good for business and consumers....but AMD has.... COME A LONG WAY....BABY! (Now where is their new virginia slims commercial???)

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    Quote Originally Posted by CuriousMan
    So very true. Now that Motorola has pretty much left the market. VIA is still a very minor player. China will eventually become a player, they are just beginning to explore the possibilities.

    The other players in the field are catering to specialized market segments with their products (costly, too).

    So, AMD and Intel are pretty much it for the consumer market. Again not to discount VIA, because some people love their products for building noiseless systems (or very near noiseless).

    I think VIA will improve...looking at the specs for their next product line is not too bad. Considering Intel just announce they will stop productionof the P!!!. I think VIA will probably pick up where this product niche left off.


    Of course AMD was once in VIAs spot! Everyone has to start someplace! Who knows....mabye VIA chips will be the next AMD?????

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    Quote Originally Posted by webe3

    Of course AMD was once in VIAs spot! Everyone has to start someplace! Who knows....mabye VIA chips will be the next AMD?????
    Ah, stranger things have happened... If heaven forbid, the K8 flops in the maketplace??? Whew, I just pray that never happens....

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    An awful lot us are too. ;)


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    Intel doesn't need any help like that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by webe3
    I remember when Intel ruled the roost! I had a 486 DX100 and thought I was hot stuff baby! (a little Austin Powers humor) I had wing commander 3 and the movie it played was an awesome thing to me! But I also remember how everyone wanted nothing to do with AMD chips!! It seemed back then they were not a very stable chip at all!! People kept complaining that on some games the chip kept locking up and the screen would freeze! Does anyone here remember those days??( I think there were three chip makers back then, Cyrix AMD and Intel....don't remember any others!)I think that Cyrix was even WORSE than AMD if I am remembering correctly!
    Well, back then I had a AMD 486 DX2/66 and can not remember any problems with it whatsoever. Latter on I got the 5x86-133-P75 which was basically a 486 with CPU core running at 4x bus speed (133/33).

    While it was equivalent of P75 for normal apps, things like Quake ran slower than P75 since the FPU part wasn't as good as Pentium core (and I don't think they caught in FPU department until Athlon, when they actually overtook Intel). So I think that was the reason why many didn't want AMD chips in their systems back then (I did actually chose P200mmx over K6 for my next system (until that CPU got replaced with K6-2/266)).

    But even so, I can't recall any stability issues with their chips. I still got the 5x86-133 running the NAT/Firewall/Internet Sharing box right now and got no problems with it.

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    It's all perception. AMD still needs help in that department. It's not perceived in business circles to be as stable. Truth doesn't necessarily have much to do with it.

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