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    A few things just kickin' around recently about some reasons about this delay.
    Don't be surprised about some spec changes happening before these other CPU's hit the stores.
    A lot are pushing the idea that Barton itself may turn out to be a 200MHz FSB (400MHz DDR) unit and these rumours are almost as strong as they were for the 166MHz FSB. ;)
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    Ok it seems that thru the back door Barton has been officially given the 400MHz DDR FSB (200MHz) which is expected to be officially released just prior to the Athlon64's release (XP3000+ maybe but more likely XP3200+ around February with Athlon64 in March). VIA now has plans to release their KT400A chipsets early next year (mid January most likely) so that supplies of motherboards will be around well before the launch of Barton. :devil:
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    Here is some related info from comdex..
    http://anandtech.com/showdoc.html?i=1752&p=2

    "We just received confirmation (although AMD won't announce it until much later) that Barton will be shipping with a 400MHz FSB and the performance boost from the new FSB is pretty healthy. On current processors the use of a 400MHz FSB will improve performance anywhere from 0 - 15% on the nForce2 platform, obviously depending on the benchmark."

    And some from the Athlon64 demoing..
    http://anandtech.com/showdoc.html?i=1752&p=3

    "The heatsink was lukewarm at best while the system was running 3DMark 2001 SE, clearly a testament to how beneficial Silicon on Insulator is. The system was quite stable and never crashed while we were using it; it was running a regular copy of Windows XP Professional."

    "The performance of the Athlon 64 at 1.4GHz was around the speed of a 2.2GHz Pentium 4 or Athlon XP 2200+, at least in the 3DMark tests we ran. Obviously this isn't an indication of final performance but it does give you an idea of where AMD is headed."

    Looks like AMD is a hard spot now..
    Intel is pushing its FSB up to 800Mhz, tho it seems that they do it cause they seem to have trouble to get the core to much higher frequencies..
    http://anandtech.com/showdoc.html?i=1752


    Oh and Vias KT400A seems to be using DualDDR.

    "We also received full confirmation that VIA's KT400A will in fact be a dual channel DDR solution. The boards should be ready in January and we'll be able to see if VIA has what it takes to out-tweak NVIDIA."

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    That last bit hasn't yet been confirmed by others yet and is based on VIA having it in a P4 chipset atm so I'll wait for a bit on that one. : peace2:
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    Well it would make sense..
    they plan on using DualDDR on K8 too

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    That will be interesting to see how they implement that as the Hammers all have intergrated memory controllers (Athlon64 has one while highend Opertrons have dual controllers). But yes it would make sense for the higher FSB processors.
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    Wonder if they can bypass the integrated controllers somehow..
    just read this:
    http://anandtech.com/showdoc.html?i=1755&p=1
    Got some nice info on the Athlon 64, seems like they have to revise the CPU to support newer Memory standards..
    Seems like theyre starting out on DDR333, then moves up to DDR400 and then DDRII when it becomes available as a standard and to consumers.
    There seems to be some scepticism about te move to 64 bit, microsoft will have to get everyone to make 64bit drivers to all kinds of hardware among others..
    AMD seems to counter hyperthreading with affordable dual CPU configs tho.. that i like =)

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    AMD Needs Not to fire there workers. They let off a rather large load not too long ago maybe 1000 or 10,000
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