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Thread: 2500+ Barton BEAT by 2100+ T-Breed rev B




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    Yep that's right. I have a 2100+ Thoroughbreed ver b that beat the Barton I put in during a comparision on benchmarks. Go figure that!! I bought the Barton as it has more L2 cache and has a faster MHz working speed. It's almost no contest. The older, Thoroughbreed ver b with PC2100 Crucail memory (3 sticks... 3 X 256) beat the stock Barton 2500+ with 1 stick of 512 MB PC2700 Dane Electric 333 MHz RAM..... perhaps I should not use the Dane Electric and go back to something else?

    Also I noticed that if I put in my PC2100 ram (crucail) and boot up it shows me running at 333 FSB on my PC2100 ram. This is if I have the Barton installed. I am thinking the ram is not as good as I would hope it shold be for performance.
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    Having Never heard of 'Dane Electric' I'm guessing that ram could be the sole reason for your results.....

    Btw, what benchmark are you using?
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    I use a program called FreshDiagnose. It has several benchmarking features in it and the one for the CPU gives output of MWIPS (WhetStone), MDIPS (DhryStone) and Speed in MHz. The benchmark trial for the RAM does Interger, Real Assignment, Interger Split, and Real Split. What benchmark progam I use is not as important in that I use the same one from setting to setting and processor to processor, or Ram :D

    If you were just benchmarking the CPU then I am not sure how that the RAM would figure in to that as it is/can be benchmarked separately.

    Also specs: Abit KD7E motheboard with KT333 chipset and DN version of BIOS

    2500+ Barton at 2800+
    Dane-Electric PC2700 CAS 2.5 DDR RAM
    Maxtor 80GB
    Pioneer DVD burner
    Yamaha CD burner
    Toshiba DVD drive,
    Leadtek TV2000 XP video input PCI card
    NIC 10/100
    Soundblaster Live 5.1
    Asus Nvidia AGP card 64MB DDR GeForce4 MX 440

    Not sure exactly how the KD7E does on this setup, but with the newer BIOS of DN should hold it's own.
    "Former Nebraskan... fix it with bailin' wire."
    Vern

    SYSTEM:
    MULTIBOOT -> Windows XP, ME and Mandrake 9.2 Linux

    Abit KV8-MAX3
    AMD 64 Clawhammer 3200+

    Kingston Hyper X 1GB DDR CAS 2 set agressively!
    Custom fan cooler for CPU
    USB 2.0 all onboard no card
    GeForce4 MX440 AGP 64MB DDR Video Card
    10/100 NIC 3Com onboard
    Leadtek TV 2000 XP video input card PCI
    160 GB ATA 133 Maxtor HD 8MB buffer
    350 W Enermax PS
    Toshiba DVD ROM drive
    Yamaha CD Burner
    Pioneer DVR-105 DVD Burner
    Logitec optical mouse on adapter
    DW 6000 Satellite 2-Way internet connection

    jenefarm@direcway.com

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    maybe the program that u r using does not support the features of the barton, why not go with something like sandra , which gets updated quite often...
    i suggest u do this before going about and buying some new ram..
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    i also use fresh diagnose to do some benchmarking and it has to use all of barton's features, it gets updated about every 2wks

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    I have run my Barton (2500+) all the way up to 3000+ successfully ! That is going from 1.83 GHz up to 2.16285 GHz from WCPUID and others. It performs better at that settings but I was surprised that the 2500 at stock 1.83 was not doing better.

    I noticed that www.newegg.com has the new opteron for sale, cheaper than their 3000+ Barton core, and the hammer core is rated at only 1.4 GHz, but, it is 64 bit and looks to be capable of dual processor support.


    Temps at 3000+ were in the 26 C range. I upped the voltage up to 7.125 *thinking* just a small bit above 7.0 for it to run stable at that speed. Haven't tried lowering the voltage to see what it "can" run at stable.


    :D
    "Former Nebraskan... fix it with bailin' wire."
    Vern

    SYSTEM:
    MULTIBOOT -> Windows XP, ME and Mandrake 9.2 Linux

    Abit KV8-MAX3
    AMD 64 Clawhammer 3200+

    Kingston Hyper X 1GB DDR CAS 2 set agressively!
    Custom fan cooler for CPU
    USB 2.0 all onboard no card
    GeForce4 MX440 AGP 64MB DDR Video Card
    10/100 NIC 3Com onboard
    Leadtek TV 2000 XP video input card PCI
    160 GB ATA 133 Maxtor HD 8MB buffer
    350 W Enermax PS
    Toshiba DVD ROM drive
    Yamaha CD Burner
    Pioneer DVR-105 DVD Burner
    Logitec optical mouse on adapter
    DW 6000 Satellite 2-Way internet connection

    jenefarm@direcway.com

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