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    Default Re: New FW1916 available for DL and Bug Fix Report By Model

    my computer uses a PATA to SATA adapter.
    FW 1916 and Win7 do not play well together on my computer
    I was given a modified FW, v1821 (I think it disabled the TRIM function of 1819)

    I cannot backward flash from 1916 to 1821.

    Any chance I can get a modified version of 1916, but with the TRIM function disabled?

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    Default Re: New FW1916 available for DL and Bug Fix Report By Model

    Quote Originally Posted by mheere View Post
    wondering if a zif to 3.5 (or 2.5) pata ide adapter would work? Would sure be easier to come up with than another machine with this interface.
    +1

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    Default Re: New FW1916 available for DL and Bug Fix Report By Model

    mheere/Jcf,

    Hi,
    Does your SSD show as 'RunCore 128G-C SSD'?
    If the name of the ssd can't be matched with the program, it will can't be detected to upgrade.

    Using an external USB enclosure can't work, but the ZIF to 3.5 (or 2.5) PATA IDE adapter is OK.

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    Default Re: New FW1916 available for DL and Bug Fix Report By Model

    Quote Originally Posted by RunCore Tech_Support View Post
    mheere/Jcf,

    Hi,
    Does your SSD show as 'RunCore 128G-C SSD'?
    If the name of the ssd can't be matched with the program, it will can't be detected to upgrade.

    Using an external USB enclosure can't work, but the ZIF to 3.5 (or 2.5) PATA IDE adapter is OK.
    mine reports 128g-c

    is there fw 1916 for this model? what makes it different?

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    Default Re: New FW1916 available for DL and Bug Fix Report By Model

    Not sure. I packed it up to send it back to MDD.com, so all I have to go on at this point is the part # and serial # (as posted in my first post). I haven't shipped it back yet, so I could try another uptate if it shows up very, very soon.

    However, there's another post up a few where someone else is still having Windows 7 issues with FW 1916. I'm not sure I want to keep this drive at this point - even if I can get it flashed.

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    Default Re: New FW1916 available for DL and Bug Fix Report By Model

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_Screen View Post
    Matt, my Mainboard is a DFI Lanparty DK P45-T2RS Elite
    LGA 775-Core 2 Duo, 4Gb DDRII, Intel P45+ICH10R.

    I dont use onboard sound, video, or LAN but do use the IDE channel as well as the 6 SATA ports to support 2 RAID-1 arrays built with Samsung 1tb drives

    mheere, i mostly hold all branded PC's in contempt, but in the wintel world, the Dell is among the worst

    Most all branded PC's are built with bulk purchased obsolete parts, and often also involve many brand-specific parts, and we wont go into their versions of OEM operating systems...

    I'm a Systems Support Engineer, i get to fix the danged things...
    I'll take a nice white-box any day
    Please describe the issues you are having.

    Matt

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    Default Re: New FW1916 available for DL and Bug Fix Report By Model

    Quote Originally Posted by cmbdakri View Post
    asus 901 eee pc

    runcore 70mm mini pci runcore 4 32gb sata/pata


    initial firmware: 1571

    8 on 10 standby problems on winxp

    initial speed 125mb/s random reads

    --------------------------------------------

    upgraded firmware: 1571 to ?1819?

    2 on 10 standby problems on winxp

    speed drop from 125mb/s to 75mb/s random reads

    --------------------------------------------

    upgraded firmware: ?1819? to 1916

    no more standby problems on winxp!

    speed drop from 75mb/s to 40mb/s random reads

    most worse: random writes went down from 50mb/s to 0.02mb/s so the os is hanging and booting slow

    (already waited 2 hours, because the auto GC maybe be running on background, still dramatic drop down in read and write speed (like unusable for anything! 0.02mb/s WRITE(at 1MB, 512kb and 4kb random write) please advise, something is wrong!))

    UPDATE UPDATE UPDATE: i already got 3 black screens!!!!!!!

    READ speed dropped down to 0.5mb/s and 0.01mb/s write
    But most worse is i get black screens after some running time! It already happend 3 times!
    1 time after an half hour, to other time after 10 minutes, and another time after an hour!
    The 4th time it rebooted!

    Something is seriously wrong with fw 1916! Speed is no more and black screens / reboots are coming after some runtime.

    Boot time dropped from a minute to 25minutes!!!!!

    Please advise!

    NEW UPDATE UPDATE UPDATE: i reflashed the runcore4 32gb from 1916 to 1916 because i only had 0.5mb/s and 0.01mb/s write, now after this reflash the speed is coming higher every hour!

    i now have 50mb/s read and 3.4mb/s write, i think the speed is now slowly restoring, afterall i had no black screens after the reflash. I still am testing, so far the reflash with 1916 again helped restoring speed somehow and somehow avoided the black screens. I think the GC is running in the background correctly now, recovering the full speed, but it takes time i think.

    I am testing it and will post update soon. Nomatter what, some things arent right with the 1916 firmware, however no data was lost so far, so no reinstall was needed. Will post a reply soon!

    NEW UPDATE UPDATE UPDATE: minute after minute the speed is becoming faster! i now have 67mb/s read and 4.2mb/s write!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! no data lost so far, only a reflash with same firmware was needed to fix the problem!
    to runcore: please try to debug the problem, my upgrade went not 100%

    NEW UPDATE UPDATE UPDATE: minute after minute the speed is becoming faster! i now have 88mb/s read and 3mb/s write!!!! The write is still slow but the reflash helped improve read spead minute to minute!!! I still wonder why i had to flash the same 1916 twice to fix the spead and black screen problem!

    NEW UPDATE UPDATE UPDATE: hours after minutes the speed is becoming faster! i now have 98mb/s read and 5mb/s write!!!!

    NEW UPDATE UPDATE UPDATE: hours after minutes the speed is becoming faster! i now have 106mb/s read and 6.8mb/s write!!!! this means firmware 1916 overperform firmware 1816!! see speeds at the beginning of my post!

    NEW UPDATE UPDATE UPDATE: hours after minutes the speed is becoming faster! i now have 115mb/s read and 9mb/s write!!!!

    ALMOST A DAY LATER SPEEDS ARE STILL RISING(ALL APPS CLOSED AND SPEEDS STILL RISING DUE FW1916):
    --------------------------------------------------
    CrystalDiskMark 2.2 (C) 2007-2008 hiyohiyo
    Crystal Dew World : Crystal Dew World
    --------------------------------------------------

    Sequential Read : 105.736 MB/s
    Sequential Write : 46.193 MB/s
    Random Read 512KB : 105.759 MB/s
    Random Write 512KB : 8.450 MB/s
    Random Read 4KB : 19.362 MB/s
    Random Write 4KB : 1.441 MB/s

    Test Size : 50 MB
    Date : 2010/01/24 11:16:23

    SEE HOW SLOW THE UPDATE WORKS!
    AFTER EVERY REBOOT ALL SPEED IS LOST BACK TO 0.01mb/s read and write
    AFTER RUNNING SOME TIME SPEED COMES BACK
    SMART DISK LIFE STATUS WENT FROM 94% TO 85% SO ITS KILLING MY SSD

    --------------------------------------------------
    CrystalDiskMark 2.2 (C) 2007-2008 hiyohiyo
    Crystal Dew World : Crystal Dew World
    --------------------------------------------------

    Sequential Read : 122.049 MB/s
    Sequential Write : 52.997 MB/s
    Random Read 512KB : 110.613 MB/s
    Random Write 512KB : 10.075 MB/s
    Random Read 4KB : 19.320 MB/s
    Random Write 4KB : 1.454 MB/s

    Test Size : 50 MB
    Date : 2010/01/24 16:37:50

    ANOTHER UPDATE (i think the update finally is coming to its end after almost 2 days of work (i will post a simplified overview completely below if i am finished)

    --------------------------------------------------
    CrystalDiskMark 2.2 (C) 2007-2008 hiyohiyo
    Crystal Dew World : Crystal Dew World
    --------------------------------------------------

    Sequential Read : 122.395 MB/s
    Sequential Write : 54.998 MB/s
    Random Read 512KB : 112.323 MB/s
    Random Write 512KB : 54.364 MB/s
    Random Read 4KB : 20.084 MB/s
    Random Write 4KB : 4.061 MB/s

    Test Size : 50 MB
    Date : 2010/01/24 16:53:01

    ANOTHER BENCH LATER

    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    CrystalDiskMark 3.0 Beta2 (C) 2007-2009 hiyohiyo
    Crystal Dew World : Crystal Dew World
    ---------------------------------------------------------------

    Sequential Read : 123.227 MB/s
    Sequential Write : 55.230 MB/s
    Random Read 512KB : 110.009 MB/s
    Random Write 512KB : 52.372 MB/s
    Random Read 4KB (QD=1) : 20.231 MB/s [ 4939.1 IOPS]
    Random Write 4KB (QD=1) : 5.496 MB/s [ 1341.9 IOPS]
    Random Read 4KB (QD=32) : 22.771 MB/s [ 5559.3 IOPS]
    Random Write 4KB (QD=32) : 4.224 MB/s [ 1031.4 IOPS]

    Test : 50 MB [D: Used 71.5% (21.0/29.3 GB)]
    Date : 2010/01/24 17:26:05
    OS : Windows XP Home Edition SP3 [5.1 Build 2600] (x86)

    ANOTHER UPDATE!!!!!!!!! CHECK TIME HOW LONG IT TAKES TO RESTORE THE SPEED!

    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    CrystalDiskMark 3.0 Beta2 (C) 2007-2009 hiyohiyo
    Crystal Dew World : Crystal Dew World
    ---------------------------------------------------------------

    Sequential Read : 121.725 MB/s
    Sequential Write : 55.997 MB/s
    Random Read 512KB : 111.774 MB/s
    Random Write 512KB : 59.976 MB/s
    Random Read 4KB (QD=1) : 19.823 MB/s [ 4839.6 IOPS]
    Random Write 4KB (QD=1) : 6.226 MB/s [ 1520.1 IOPS]
    Random Read 4KB (QD=32) : 24.915 MB/s [ 6082.8 IOPS]
    Random Write 4KB (QD=32) : 7.640 MB/s [ 1865.2 IOPS]

    Test : 50 MB [D: Used 71.5% (21.0/29.3 GB)]
    Date : 2010/01/24 18:00:26
    OS : Windows XP Home Edition SP3 [5.1 Build 2600] (x86)

    IT LOOKS LIKKTE THE SPEEDS ARE RESTORED TO INITIAL UNBOXING SPEED!

    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    CrystalDiskMark 3.0 Beta2 (C) 2007-2009 hiyohiyo
    Crystal Dew World : Crystal Dew World
    ---------------------------------------------------------------

    Sequential Read : 123.015 MB/s
    Sequential Write : 53.931 MB/s
    Random Read 512KB : 111.848 MB/s
    Random Write 512KB : 58.762 MB/s
    Random Read 4KB (QD=1) : 20.101 MB/s [ 4907.5 IOPS]
    Random Write 4KB (QD=1) : 6.624 MB/s [ 1617.2 IOPS]
    Random Read 4KB (QD=32) : 24.984 MB/s [ 6099.7 IOPS]
    Random Write 4KB (QD=32) : 8.473 MB/s [ 2068.6 IOPS]

    Test : 50 MB [D: Used 71.5% (21.0/29.3 GB)]
    Date : 2010/01/24 19:38:16
    OS : Windows XP Home Edition SP3 [5.1 Build 2600] (x86)


    GOOD NEWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! UPDATE WAS DONE!!!!!!!!!!


    Overviewproblems:

    1) After updating 1819 to 1916 speed dropped to 0.01mb/s for read and writes + i got black screens after some running time
    waiting many hours, only after a reflash 1916 to 1916 black screen went bye and speed started raising
    2) After every reboot speed was lost again and again to 0.01mb/s, i had to run my eee 901 long enough till initial speed was restored again, rebooting to soon dropped speed again, only waiting a day to restore speed KEPT the speed after reboot (possible because of the hidden update proces to rewrite the entire ssd or maybe the garbage collection running in background had to complete 100% to keep the speed after reboot, one time this was done, i could reboot without losing the speed)

    3) so far so good, some small problems with long waiting times, scary period because of the black screens, the 1916 fixed my standby problem + fixed the ssd to run in optimal speed again, speed is good again, it almost took a half year to fix this issues, but they are fixed now! still testing 1916 but i am happy afterall. also no data was lost! keep up the good work!
    I have forwarded this over to the support team and Indilinx. I am not adding it to the list yet as I am not sure how to list it.

    Matt

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    Default Re: New FW1916 available for DL and Bug Fix Report By Model

    #1 Computer Model
    Dell Studio XPS 1645
    Intel(R) 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset Family 6 Port SATA AHCI Controller - 3B2F
    BIOS set to ATA mode.

    #2 Runcore Drive Part # and Serial #
    RunCore Pro IV 128GB 2.5" SATA SSD
    RCP-IV-S2528-C
    PN: starts with IM (im assuming according to the PDF instructions this is samsung M-die, however I am not sure if its 16 or 8 chips..)
    FW: 0.1

    #3 Describe Bug
    When i boot into DOS using a USB flash drive and run IM2808.exe or IM2816.exe, the ssd is not flashed, and i receive the following errors:

    [ERROR]DMA Invaid device.
    [ERROR]Firmware customer type read fail!
    Invalid SSD!

    I also tried using a Dell XPS M1710 and a Dell Inspiron 1011(Mini 10v) no luck.

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    Default Confused Dell Latitiude XT Owner

    I'm not sure if I fully understand the the issue people are having with this laptop....is it merely an issue of flashing the bios?

    I have Win7 64-bt running on my HD and was planning to buy the 128 GB Runcore from mydigitaldiscount.com for the speed up. Is this going to work or not? Obviously, I don't want to spend $420 for a major headache.

    Please advise. Thanks.

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    Default Re: New FW1916 available for DL and Bug Fix Report By Model

    The issues seem to break down like this:

    1. For almost everyone, there are issues with these drives with any firmware older than the very latest (FW1916). This is the SSD firmware, not the BIOS in the PC. The issues range from poor performance to instability to an inability to even install an OS on the drive.

    2. Updating the firmware on the SSD is supposed to be as simple as booting to DOS and running the update utility. For a lot of us, this turns out to be non-trivial. There's no floppy drive on my laptop, and getting it to boot from a USB key into DOS (with USB support) took a lot of fooling with.

    [aside: Dell manages to update the BIOS in the laptop itself using a utility that runs under Windows - even Windows 7. If RunCore can't manage this, then they should at least privide an ISO for a bootable CD ROM image to do the task. Having users build their own DOS bootable USB keys is way too much to ask. Don't tell me about OS licensing issues either. Use a Linux distro and get it done...]

    3. In my particular laptop (any others with [mostly] Dell machines apparently), even once you get into DOS, the firmware update utility fails.

    4. Finally, there's at least one post in this thread where a user managed to get the firmware updated to 1916, and is still having Windows 7 issues. I doubt that 32 vs 64 bit makes any difference. Support for all the things MS added to Win 7 (ironically, specifically to support the use of SSDs) seems to be thin / buggy at this point.

    One guy from RunCore marketting is pretty active here / responsive to issues. RunCore tech support makes an appearance now and then on the forum, but otherwise may as well not exist.

    If I can ever get the T&Cs worked out with MyDigitaDiscount on the RMA, mine is going back ASAP. I love the idea, but presently this thing is just not stable enough to be the drive in my day to day work machine.
    Last edited by mheere; 01-26-2010 at 10:29 PM.

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