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    Quote Originally Posted by profJim View Post
    Connecting your Samsung ssd as an additional drive in another computer is the easiest way to go to have Magician initialize (clean) it and create a primary active partition. Once you've installed the O/S on the Samsung, you can use Magician to shrink the size of your boot partition to provide over provisioning space.
    Oh and does the firmware update stay on the SSD once it has been reformatted? (Just recently updated it but now going reformat it for fresh install).
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    Quote Originally Posted by wazza300 View Post
    you can also install the latest intel rapid storage drivers,the will improve things slightly over the standard Microsoft drivers,
    Will do thanks
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    You're welcome, glad to help out.
    After Magician cleans your ssd on the other system, use Magician to create an aligned primary partition, then install you ssd back into your system to install the operating system. You shouldn't need to have win7 format the partition that you created. After win7 is installed, run Magician one more time to shrink your partition to create the over provisioning space.
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    Quote Originally Posted by profJim View Post
    You're welcome, glad to help out.
    After Magician cleans your ssd on the other system, use Magician to create an aligned primary partition, then install you ssd back into your system to install the operating system. You shouldn't need to have win7 format the partition that you created. After win7 is installed, run Magician one more time to shrink your partition to create the over provisioning space.
    Alright I will clean my SSD later today then report back to tell how it went. Thanks again!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirken View Post
    Oh and does the firmware update stay on the SSD once it has been reformatted? (Just recently updated it but now going reformat it for fresh install).
    I missed this post.
    The only thing that will change the firmware version is when you manually update the firmware in the future.
    Formatting and repartitioning your ssd has no effect on the ssd's firmware version.

    Firmware updates are similar to motherboard bios updates.
    The firmware update can fix any ssd bugs and might improve performance.
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    Okay so I have finally set up my SSD, I didn't get a chance to secure erase or reformat it though. (HDD external usb 3.0 case wouldn't let me secure erase it through the magician software b/c it was not detecting it as a hard drive on my laptop). So I just went in and booted through the windows 7 CD, then I went through the installation just like a normal hdd. Currently running it with a 1 TB Seagate Barracuda, I moved all my user files there (my pictures, documents, downloads, etc.). What else should I move there?

    Anyways I think everything is fine now and would like to hear if I did something wrong and why did the external hdd usb 3.0 case not let me securely erase my ssd. I optimized the ssd to maximum capacity through the magician software. Also I turned off indexing on my SSD. Is that a bad thing? I currently have all my windows, drivers, and MSE on the SSD. As well as WoW. Somehow I have 73.2G left and im not sure what else is taking up my SSD's space.

    Any other tips would be helpful as well. And I would like to thank everyone that's been very responsive and helpful here!
    Last edited by Sirken; 05-27-2013 at 06:48 PM.
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    I've moved the following folders from my ssd boot drive to the first partition on my hard drive:
    • Downloads
    • Indexer
    • Temporary Internet Files
    • FireFox Cache Folder
    • Temp
    • TMP
    • and the pagefil.sys file

    One drawback is that windows backup now backs up my C: and D: drives and windows Restore will not work because it shows an error message with a cryptic message that windows Restore needs to format the drive. I now use third party backup software exclusively for backing up my boot drive. This happens when my ssd is empty and the hard drive D: partition has data.

    For best ssd performance and longevity you should use the Samsung Magician software to create an over provisioning area on your ssd. With your 128GB ssd, the default setting might be 11.9GB. A larger OP area is best and I have set up my ssd with a 40GiB OP area which leaves 80GiB for my boot partition. My 830 ssd is 128GB which is the same as 120GiB.

    Windows will let you "move" some of the folders when you use the appropriate advanced settings. An easier option is to use Junction Link Magic freeware.
    Junction Link Magic

    TreeSize Free - Quickly Scan Directory Sizes and Find Space Hogs will show the size of every folder in a disk partition, except for some windows system folders.
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    Todays SSDs are advanced enuff that the older-school 'off-load the writes' strategy carries much less weight. Todays drives are soo much better at wear leveling with better write amplification and on and on, such that 'wearing out' your nand is no longer a concern. One testament to just how much ssds can handle is the endurance thread at XS. The thread was started 2 years ago so there plenty of 'real world' use info to take in. This page of the thread has a short summary of the most recent drives tested. You'll see that the Samsung 830 had some serious endurance...over 6 Petabytes of writes!! And when it died, it wasn't for a lack of clean nand. ;) All this being said, I leave most everything on my system array except ofc downloads and with 8GB of ram, I no longer use a pagefile...I keep everything in memory unless I'm into a huge photoshop or video project which isn't very often.
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