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    Question Best SSD for my application

    Hi all:

    Check out the specs of my intended workstation build. I'm using SWrks 2013 premium and BOBCAD,

    I am going to put WIN 8.1 pro 64bit on the SSD as a boot disk. I was thinking I'd need over 250 GIGS as I'd use the space remaining after the WIN install as cache.

    I need some personal recommendations for the brand & model number/capacity/designation (e.g., SATA 6.0) please. Today I'm gonna go ahead and buy the memory and 4 1T HDDs. IF anyone has a reseller they favor pass that along too. I normally buy all my internals @ newegg.com. I've been buying from them since they had a brick and mortar op in SoCal (1995?). However, I am open to the community's suggestions and recs.

    Any help will be an indebtment from me to you.

    So far TT has been stellar in the member's openness and help. I gotta save my money now that I'm retired.



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    Optical Discs - 1 LG Blu-Ray burner and 1 ASUS Blu-Ray burner
    Case- Lian Li PC 9F
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    OS- Win 8.1 Pro 64bit upgradable to 8.1
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    Default Re: Best SSD for my application

    I am going to put WIN 8.1 pro 64bit on the SSD as a boot disk. I was thinking I'd need over 250 GIGS as I'd use the space remaining after the WIN install as cache.
    Define exactly how and what the cache will be used for.
    Your boot partition should have at least 20% - 30% of unused free space at all times.
    For optimal ssd life and performance, my new 256GB Samsung 840 Pro ssd has 35% of the ssd's total capacity for over provisioning space. This OP space is unallocated space at the end of the ssd.

    The new Samsung 840 EVO ssd's are about 20% less expensive than the Samsung 840 Pro models, but the EVO's long term TLC Nand endurance is questioned by many ssd reviewers. It's rumored the Samsung will shortly offer their Rapid ssd cache software for the 840 Pro models. Plextor, Sandisk and a few other ssd vendors offer some top tier models that are comparable to the Samsung 840 Pro models. I'm not a fan of OCZ ssd's.

    98% of my computer related purchases are from Newegg.
    I've had a few issues in the past 7 years and each time Newegg's customer service was excellent!

    You should investigate virtual ram disk software which lets you set aside a fix amount of memory that you can use as high speed "disk" access for Temp folders and work areas for some applications. Some newer motherboard models include this software.
    Check out High-Speed RAM Disk | Raxco Software for more information.
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    Default Re: Best SSD for my application

    Quote Originally Posted by profJim View Post
    Define exactly how and what the cache will be used for.
    I need cache for my CADCAM and VIDEO EDITING (i.e., Solidworks, BOBCAD, Adobe CS6 Master suite)

    Quote Originally Posted by profJim View Post
    Your boot partition should have at least 20% - 30% of unused free space at all times.
    For optimal ssd life and performance, my new 256GB Samsung 840 Pro ssd has 35% of the ssd's total capacity for over provisioning space. This OP space is unallocated space at the end of the ssd.
    Thanks profJim. If I went with a larger drive would there be a default capacity for 'over provisioning space' (can't tell if this is jargon or not so enclosed in single quotes)? That is to say if I used a 512? GB drive would it automatically select the amount left over for cache?

    Quote Originally Posted by profJim View Post
    The new Samsung 840 EVO ssd's are about 20% less expensive than the Samsung 840 Pro models, but the EVO's long term TLC Nand endurance is questioned by many ssd reviewers. It's rumored the Samsung will shortly offer their Rapid ssd cache software for the 840 Pro models. Plextor, Sandisk and a few other ssd vendors offer some top tier models that are comparable to the Samsung 840 Pro models. I'm not a fan of OCZ ssd's.
    I don't think I'll get a hybrid but haven't really researched this.

    Quote Originally Posted by profJim View Post
    98% of my computer related purchases are from Newegg.
    I've had a few issues in the past 7 years and each time Newegg's customer service was excellent!
    No argument there

    Quote Originally Posted by profJim View Post
    You should investigate virtual ram disk software which lets you set aside a fix amount of memory that you can use as high speed "disk" access for Temp folders and work areas for some applications. Some newer motherboard models include this software.
    Check out High-Speed RAM Disk | Raxco Software for more information.
    So if I'm doing the SSD install I should look into this software additionally? I just got a response on the ASUS forum that verified my MB will accommodate a 32gig kit. I assume that some of this will not be used no matter what computing I do in my shop. I really don't know how intense Solidworks or BOBCAD is in terms of memory usage. I have an excellent graphics card and it conforms with Solidworks' certified list. I know that on my current machine CS4 is very slow. I imagine that CS6 with it's native 64bit coding will help alot given the hardware of the new system . . . any thoughts from you guys?

    Thanks again!

    psient
    New build, Mainstream computing SOHO:

    Motherboard- ASUS Z87-Deluxe
    CPU- Haswell i7 4770 3.4GHZ (no overclock)
    Cooling- Noctua NH-L12
    Graphics Card- Nvidia QUADRO 4000K
    Memory- 32 gigs GSkill ddr3 2400
    HDD- 4 Western Digital Black 1TB drives @ raid 10
    SSD- 1 Samsung 850 PRO 256gig
    USB 3.0 add-on card - Sedna 2 internal, 2 external
    USB 3.0 20 pin adapter - Sedna
    Sound- MB
    Sedna internal Card Reader
    ASUS EXII Thunderbolt card (dual)
    Optical Discs - 1 LG Blu-Ray burner and 1 ASUS Blu-Ray burner
    Case- Lian Li PC 9F
    PS- Corsair HX-750


    OS- Win 8.1 Pro 64bit upgradable to 8.1
    Software

    SW, BobCad, CS6 Master Suite, Office 2013

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