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    Quote Originally Posted by Soulburner
    Actually yes it does......do you see any 256mb cards on top of the ORB? I didn't think so.
    There aren't any benchmarks that needs 256Mb today, most of em' are used with the res 1024x768 32 and at that settings 128Mb is plenty and due to it's oc ability it usually scores best..

    But if you turn up the settings to 16x12 32Bit then todays cards score alot different, at those settings the amount of memory is critical, sure ddr2 won't oc as well but if you take two cards, one with 128 & one with 256Mb memory you'll se the difference..

    Just search for benchmarks at 16x12 32Bit and you'll see.. :)

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    I know you will see the difference, that is not what I am saying.

    My point is, you take the DDR card and clock it up some, and now it surpasses the DDR2 256mb card, for a lot less money.

    The reason why the DDR2 memory doesn't overclock well is not because of heat, but because they run at less voltage. My guess would be a volt mod could fix that, but I dont know of anyone who has done it yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soulburner
    My point is, you take the DDR card and clock it up some, and now it surpasses the DDR2 256mb card, for a lot less money.
    But a serious gamer with a wish for high res gaming would benefit more on a card that manage to keep his textures in memory for smooth gaming rather than a card which scores better in regular lower res benchmarks.. If it oc and benches higher numbers doesn't really help when the memory is needed..

    Jesus what do you buy a card for, benchmarks or gaming.. lol

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    It makes no difference whether its gaming or benchmarks. I didn't even mention benchmarks. I am saying the 128mb DDR card, when overclocked is faster. I thought everyone already knew this?

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    Yes it's faster. But do you think it can make high res gameplay with big ass textures as smooth as the bigger memory cards just cuz it has faster frequensys?

    Speed can never replace physical memory.. :2cents:

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    <center>More rumours from Taiwan</center>

    We have spoken to several partners all of which inform us that the new ATI graphics card is around 10% faster than the R350 core, and it also has a new 'cooling' technology which speeds up to around 20db louder than the 5900 Ultra when running in full speed 3D Mode.

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    <center>Is ATI's Radeon 9800 XT the new dustbuster?</center>

    ATI's 9800XT (R360) is ready to go and launch this week but early information indicates that the clockspeeds on this part are only barely higher than on the 9800 Pro. The 9800P is currently a 380/350 part, as compared to the 9800XT, which will clock at a blazing 415/365. As for the FX 5950 Ultra (NV38), while the cooling looks big, he explained, the plastic is a different kind of plastic to the NV35, and in fact weighs far less although it does straddle two slots. The fan is quiet and beats the ATI XT offering by 30dbs or so. The core speed is officially 475MHz and is overclockable to 500MHz. The official launch date for the NV38 is October 10th.

    <center>Radeon 9800 XT : 415MHz Core / 730MHz Memory
    Radeon 9800 Pro : 380MHz Core / 700MHz Memory
    FX 5950 Ultra : 475MHz Core / 950MHz Memory
    FX 5900 Ultra : 450MHz Core / 850MHz Memory
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    <center>1st Radeon 9800 XT 256MB benchmarks

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    <center>ASUS Radeon 9800 XT box artwork

    Finally, artwork for ASUS' Radeon 9800 XT box, clearly labeled Half-Life 2 FREE GAME.</center>

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    I was wondering. HL2 release date was pushed back, but 9800XT's is not. They will come as a bundle... now how is this possible?
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    <center>ATI Radeon 9800 XT
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    <img src="http://images.tweaktown.com/news/news_r9800xt.jpg"></center>
    New Catalyst 3.8 feature: OverDrive

    ATI's new card has a temperature sensor on the GPU core, and the card's driver constantly monitors the core temperature. OverDrive will then dynamically overclock the card to maximize performance, while keeping the GPU core temperature at a safe operating level. When the temperature nears the upper limit, the Catalyst driver will back the GPU clock speed down to cool the GPU's core. How much performance this will yield remains to be seen, and depends upon how far the GPU can be overclocked. The bad news here is that OverDrive will only tweak the GPU clock speed, and not the graphics memory clock speed. More often than not, 3D games are memory-bound, and so goosing up memory clock speeds usually yields more incremental performance per megahertz. But as vertex and pixel shader programs increase in size and complexity, GPU engine overclocking may begin to have a more significant performance impact.

    Final Thoughts

    The arrival of the Radeon 9800XT Pro is not a seismic event in the 3D graphics world. The most interesting performance component of this GPU won't be revealed until we have Catalyst 3.8 drivers in our hands to see how much performance that driver's dynamic overclocking will yield. The other interesting part of this card, the inclusion of a full version of Half-Life 2, hasn't arrived yet either. It's kind of like the 9800XT Pro was the first guy at the party, and is left trolling the hors d'oeuvres table until the rest of the guests arrive. This newest top-end GPU from ATI does increase the performance lead versus nVidia somewhat, which may provide a sufficient hedge against the upcoming GeForce FX 5950 (NV38). Both GPU makers are approaching the upper limits of whatever headroom their respective current architectures have left. The next big smackdown won't happen until some time next year, when we bring you the NV40 vs. R400 battle. So far, not a lot is known about either architecture, other than that both should include support for Vertex Shader 3.0 and Pixel Shader 3.0 (which are part of DX9). For now, though, the performance lead remains with ATI. While nVidia's next "kicker" GPU will close the performance gap, we're not sure that it will bring nVidia to performance parity with ATI's Radeon 9800XT Pro.

    Full preview including loads of benchmarks

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    benny_mankin: The 9800XT comes with a full version of Half-Life 2. That's right, a FULL version of this year's most hotly-anticipated game, whose ship date recently slipped. If the 9800XT boxes don't land on store shelves with a CD in the box, there'll be a coupon to get the game-disc when it becomes available.

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    <center>More Radeon 9800 XT Previews

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