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Thread: NVIDIA cheats on benchmarks?




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    go to www.hardocp.com and read it for yourself. It's not something you can sum up easily.

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    Where on Hard|OCP I don't know where to look and why not use 2003 (or is that part of it...)
    nvm...I found it sorry but help me with my ICP problem... or whatever
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    I'd be.. :eek:

    This is some serious whoopass man.. Specially at high res tests with aa/af enabled..

    http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=NDc0LDI=

    :cheers:

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    When I return home tomorrow I will post the reasoning as to why nVidia think 3DMark2003 is not a reliable benchmark - if I dont hopefully one of you guys will remind me ;)
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    In other words if he don't remember shoot him :shoot3: :snip:
    What the fcuk happened to my sig?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rugbydude
    In other words if he don't remember shoot him :shoot3: :snip:
    This boy from the isle of man seem to have a great amount of anger hidden inside.. lmao

    :rofl:

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    No, he literally meant it.. *polishes his shotgun*

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    many games are made to use the features of their cards specifically
    <--thats why nvidia is and will be the market leader, you like ATI, go for it bud, u like bad driver support and games that dont work, have at it!!
    before you made the off the top of your head snap decision that ATI is better, did you even look at the specs...ATALL?? the FX5900 beats the ati hands down, hell if almost as powerful as some computers ppl still use.

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    :) That article is very intresting. It is explained very well and in lots of detail.


    Quote Originally Posted by ZEROKOOL
    <--, did you even look at the specs...ATALL?? the FX5900 beats the ati hands down, hell if almost as powerful as some computers ppl still use.
    :) I think one of the main points is that Nvidia may have been optimizing its drivers so it has good specs. The specs will therefore be fabricated and unreliable. Its not uncommon for companys to do this and is false advertising really.

    "That kind of bull**** is always floating around when Nvidia or Intel makes some new hardware that manage to outperform ATI or AMD. "

    :) Can it be refered as bull**** when "FutureMark, the developer of 3DMark2003, has told us that it is also aware of the issue with nVidia's 44.03 driver, and is currently investigating it as well."

    " It's the real game tests that are important.. Let's see how the cards differ within Ut2k3 etc not to mention Doom3 and you'll see.."

    :) Totally agree with you there tweaker, however it will be very hard to do such i think as it needs to be a set standard to make this specs reliable. Thats why 3Dmark was created - and the trouble is the more of a set standard it is the easier for a company to go behind our backs and fabricate the specs.

    "Well why complain? If the card can handle your games better ..... They ain't the leader for nothing ya know"

    :) I think its the fact your shelling out so much money for hardware which may have fabricated specs - plus if it gets to the point of you needing nvidia to play the games nvidia can hike up the price and you can't do anything about it. Its like microsoft all over again - we don't want one single company leading the race we want loads of competition for cheap prices!

    In the end as long as the card works and they are not ripping us all off then good ****. Nice article toolbox :)

    ta ta

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    Sometimes we have to look beyond our differences and move to a place of solidarity with people who, in the past, we've distanced ourselves from. Today, [H]ardOCP broke some very interesting news about ExtremeTech's claim that nVidia was "fixing" the results of 3dmark03. Here's a little snippet from Kyle:

    Two days after Extremetech was not given the opportunity to benchmark DOOM3, they come out swinging heavy charges of NVIDIA intentionally inflating benchmark scores in 3DMark03. What is interesting here is that Extremetech uses tools not at NVIDIA's disposal to uncover the reason behind the score inflations. These tools are not "given" to NVIDIA anymore as the will not pay the tens of thousands of dollars required to be on the "beta program" for 3DMark "membership".

    What Kyle has to say is definitely worth reading, so please head over here and give it your undivided attention.

    AMDz

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