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  1. #11
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    O.K. ....not trying to start a flame war ...but: it is easy for kids to save money if they have no real world expenses .... I work hard 40+ hours a week and provide for a family. My money goes toward such boring things as food, clothing and shelter. YOU want to tell ME how to spend my money??? LOL! A computer is a luxury in my world ... not a necessity. If you can afford a top of the line card then go for it.

    I am not saying that the FX5200 is a great card .... it is the best that I could afford. I'm still not really sure where you get off saying that it is a piece of crap. Have you ever used it on a properly configured system (or any system at all) or are you just spouting off after reading some benchmarks?

    I am not saying that better/more expensive cards are not worth the money but there seems to be an elitist group that says: if your card isn't as good as mine then it is no good! I am very sure that I enjoy my games just as well as you do with your high end card. I realize that my card is not cutting edge but it does all that I need it to do.

    What I am saying is that it is capable of playing all of the games that I have tried including Halo (at 1027x768 without AA) with no problems whatsoever and no slowdowns. Was just playing NFS Underground at maximum settings a few minutes ago. I haven't bothered to check framerate speed on my games but I seldom notice slowdowns in any games.

    Yes there will come a day when I find a game that I can not use to my full satisfaction and when that day comes I'll simply sell my current card (or give it to a friend or relative who needs it) and buy a better one when I can afford it.
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    Good point, but he said "good upgrade" so i was giving him what he needed to know. Also, i know the fx5200 is a crap card compared to the 9600 and up, but i did no refer to benchmarks, i refered to the computer i built for my friend which i had for a week to see its stability. It ran counter-strike fine without any of the AA and the AF fine, also warcraft 3 fine. But when it came to halo, battlefield, i saw little bit of stall. I am sorry that your on a budget, but i was just simply giving him advice on a good upgrade. Also i did not know about your life spendings, i had no intentions to start anything unesscary. So sorry to cause anything offensive. But to square head, if you can save your money, then do it. By the way, ...what is your budget. :cheers:
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    Sorry people, didn't mean to start the great debate. You all need to relax a little! It's X-mas for christ sake!
    Besides, I think I'm going to go with a ti 4200 or a ti 4600.

    Cheers!

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    Go with the 4200 and overclock that baby to 4600. Save a few bucks for my xmas present. :cheers:
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    ehrm...someone is gonna get the batmerang in their ass this year...
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    Ok, this is the way it works. Almost all general comsumers have read adds for dell, hp and others. This is where they get the idea that a gfx card is not required and end up buying something without an agp slot from them. This is because they do not understand anything at all until it's too late. Then there are the others that see dell say "state of the art high performance gfx" when refering to a fx5200 upgrade from a mx440(lol). Confusing them even further.

    So being a small scale computer builder, I have lots of customers with these dumb ideas burnt in their brains by mindless fatcat advertising tactics(they think they know whats good or not from this info). I have to compete with these fatcats prices and do very well thank you very much. So when a customer absolutely insists on a $100cdn pricecap for a gfx card that dell says is good, I try my hardest to steer them away from it so they will ultimately not be pissed when they find out how bad it is.

    If a customer will absolutely not budge on price, I will set them up with a better card with actual cooling for less. In this case it would be a saphire or h.i.s. radeon 9000pro 275/275 64mb for $95cdn (beats fx5200 and r9200 128mb in all benchmarks and the difference in playability is quite obvious).
    Then there are those that can be convinced(with great difficulty) that an extra $80-$100cnd has to be spent to not have a "compramise" with gfx. In this case, a ti4200 128mb or r9600 np is all they can get(that is good)(fx5600 non u blows) in that pricerange.

    Thats about it, almost nobody will allocate more than that for gfx.

    And another thing, customers from before my dx8(ti)/8.1(radeon) or higher, no fx5200, fx5600, r9200 allowed policy who insisted that obgfx is what they wanted phone me all the time *****in about software that will not run, when I specificly told them this would happen with obgfx. Remember, they "knew" they would never need any better.(I have never left anybody without an agp slot, so their blunder can be fixed when they realize this)
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    For some people, who can't/wont upgrade the mobo and cpu, some of the 9200 cards just wont run on the PIII, at least the 5200 will.

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    some of the 9200 cards just wont run on the PIII
    What 9200 cards? Who told you they would not run with pIII? They are actually a huge downgrade from a 9000pro. I would not recomend either r9200 or fx5200 for anyone.
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    It's amuzing to see how mutch of an deal you've ppl make over this.

    Yes the 5200 is a slow as card but it is in fact an upgrade for some ppl on an extreme budget. Don't think you wont notice the difference from an Gf2MX or TNT card cuz you will.. What if he is using an 14" crt with 800x600 do you honestly think he'll need more power..?

    If it takes someone like six or seven month to get ahold of the $$$ it takes to afford the more expensive 9600 over an 5200 card how can you blaim him..? There are infact ppl who has no more than like $10 left after bills & food etc each month..

    So pls understand that the advise "save up" ain't always possible for everyone..

    If the person is a light gamer with no demands for high res or details then it's even more right to get it.. After all to be playing games with low settings is better than not playing them at all..

    So the saying "if possible" should always be mentioned. :2cents:

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