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    Yeah, but the FX5600 he has at the moment is enough to hold him over for a 9800 Pro

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    I s'pose you're right...but hey, if I were in his situation, I'd go for the Radeon first. It would give a bigger improvement than the RAM and HDD, especially with more instensive games, like UT2003.
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    Quote Originally Posted by madmike
    I have about 300 dollars. I want to be able to play Doom III.


    ...I've been hearing everyone tell me to buy faster RAM.
    ...I've been hearing everyone tell me to buy a faster HDD.
    ...I've been hearing everyone tell me to get a bigger case.
    ...I've been hearing everyone tell me to get a more powerful PSU.

    But im still thinking if i buy a Radeon 9800 pro or Nvidia GeForce Fx 5800 ultra it would give me the ability to play this game right. I think this because when i read about FPS comparisons for games its between GPU's not the other things people are recommending me. But the time has come to make a decision. I need all of your educated opinions... WHAT DO I BUY?!?!!?!

    .... thanks :lips:
    Ok with either video card in that HP mini-tower of your's is likely to cause big probs.
    1/ Insuffient power from the PSU for stable operation
    2/ That little case is goin' to get very hot inside as both cards generate a lot of heat

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    madmike : I think Wiggo is on the right track here !
    IMHO, the "purchasing order" would be :

    1- Case (Something with good airflow)
    2- PSU (400+ Watts)
    3- 7200rpm HDD (WD "JB" series are my choice)-(Keep your current HDD as a secondary drive)
    4- 9800Pro (Which will need a stable PSU & good airflow)
    5- RAM (To make amd_man2003 happy );)

    Bottom line : Get what you can afford.
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    well its just that i dont have that many games right now that arent unplayable with the card i have right now, so i figured the new HDD and memory would boost overall system performance, the card would help mostly just my 3d games and i really only need it for doom 3 that wont be out for a while.

    ...but i was thinking i have been a good boy this year, maybe ill just go all out and buy it all :devil:


    but wait, are you guys saying (excluding amd_man2003) that the ram isnt worth it? and i think the case actually has pretty good airflow its got vents in the front and two in the back and the fans are pretty good. But thats just my take on it.
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    The RAM won't make a huge difference. You may see some lightly faster loading times and perhaps a few less pauses during gameplay (when an enemy comes around a corner or somebody shoots, for instance), but 99% of games these days have all the stuff like that precached, and nearly any type of RAM should be able to handle the stuff.

    So yeah, HDD > Case > Video Card > RAM

    Oh, and about the case, they're really cheap. You should be able to come up with a good one for 15-20 bucks easy. You can also spare yourself alot of time setting up the computer by buying a new cooling system. It'll be more expensive, but it should eliminate your heat problems with new the new hardware.

    Of course, if you think you don't need one, then that's fine. Like I said, you can get a cooling system for around $35 (there's a decent one that TweakTown just reviewed that's cheap and adds some glowy light thingers to the case) that you may want to check out. Remember, if all else, fails, you can always return whatever you buy to the store...most of the time - you may or may not be able to return the case at some stores unless you can prove it's broken, and it wasn't your fault it broke.
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    I'm thinking get the Hard Drive, then RAM, then the 9800pro

    Be sure to get a 7200rpm, 8mb cache hard drive, as it will yield best performance, and you'll notice an increase in speed.

    I still say the RAM second, as your CPU runs the 200mhz FSB, butyour current RAM is only running 166mhz, so your not seeing your CPU's potential.

    The Video card last because one, your FX5600 can hold you out for a time anyway, and DoomIII is still gonna be a bit so you should have time to save up for it

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    ok thanks guys, ill start my computers renovations tommorrow and continue for a while but ill tell you how things go :thumb:
    Pentium 4 CPU 2.60GHz @ 3.4 ghz
    ABIT A17 Motherboard
    1 GB PC3700 DDR-SDRAM
    Nvidia Geforce FX 6800 GT core 400 mem 1050
    Watercooled CPU and GPU
    WD 80 GB 7200rpm HDD
    WD 250 GB 7200 HDD
    Atapi CD-ROM 48x
    HP DVD Writer 300n
    Realtek 6 Channel Audio
    Windows XP Professional
    430 watt Antec TruePower

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    ok things didnt turn out so well money wise, so i have to do some rethinking. Is the radeon 9800 pro worth the extra 80 dollars over the nvidia fx 5900?
    Pentium 4 CPU 2.60GHz @ 3.4 ghz
    ABIT A17 Motherboard
    1 GB PC3700 DDR-SDRAM
    Nvidia Geforce FX 6800 GT core 400 mem 1050
    Watercooled CPU and GPU
    WD 80 GB 7200rpm HDD
    WD 250 GB 7200 HDD
    Atapi CD-ROM 48x
    HP DVD Writer 300n
    Realtek 6 Channel Audio
    Windows XP Professional
    430 watt Antec TruePower

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    Quote Originally Posted by madmike
    ok things didnt turn out so well money wise, so i have to do some rethinking. Is the radeon 9800 pro worth the extra 80 dollars over the nvidia fx 5900?
    Yes

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