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    Quote Originally Posted by AsianBatman
    There you go seranox..
    Gah, don't know how I missed that. Thanks for pointing it out for me, my Dark Night friend.

    Yeah, the computer shouldn't be limiting you...and that score is about standard for your setup. I get around 5700-5800 with mine (faster CPU but limited by the motherboard). Sounds perfectly fine to me.
    This is where my signature would go had my host not been such a Bandwidth Nazi.

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    Yeah, the 3d mark score is pretty average, that's why I didn't post it at first...but comparing my aquamark scores to other similar set-ups, the GPU score is about 1000 to 1500 below average. And the ffxi score is atrocious...a p4 2.4 with a radeon 8500 is supposed to get 4000 easy, but my score is 3300 at best.

    As far as real world performance goes, UT2k3 averages 50~70 on normal settings @ 1024 x 768, and 40~60 in America's Army. But that's about the same performance I got with the GF FX 5200 (the crummy version, too!) The idea that a card costing three times as much as my last one but doesn't perform any better is just killing me.

    Demos like Halo or Deus Ex will run, but not anywhere near a steady playable fps, even with all details lowered. I suppose Doom 3 and Half Life 2 are out of the question. =(

    It's also my first time building from a kit, so I keep having nagging suspicions that I did something wrong...I don't think I'll ever try it again. Suddenly the prices on those Alienware PCs almost seem justifiable :laugh:

    Thanks for all the suggestions, guys. I think I may as well get an RMA from ATI, since the card has been crashing a lot on me, too, especially with the newest drivers.

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    What driver are you using?

    I would try a different one, or a newer one.

    FX5900 - 3DMark2001 [20,566] - 3DMark2003 [7,281] - Aquamark3 [56,694]
    Ti4400 - 3DMark2001 [16,028]

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    I am using version 6.14.10.6343, the version that came with the CD. All newer versions cause a LOT of random crashes. (But this version also crashes occasionally, too.) It seems to be the same ati2mtag problem discussed in an earlier thread.

    The new drivers also cause a lot of graphical glitches like this one-->
    http://www.yoropa.lunarpages.com/temp/glitch.jpg
    (Don't click link, must copy/paste into browser.)

    None of these problems occured in the first few weeks I had this card, so it *might* be hardware-related.

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    Did you recently upgrade from another card, like Nvidia?

    FX5900 - 3DMark2001 [20,566] - 3DMark2003 [7,281] - Aquamark3 [56,694]
    Ti4400 - 3DMark2001 [16,028]

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    The previous card was a GF FX 5200, but I wiped the drive and reinstalled WinXP before I installed the 9800, so that should not be the cause.

    Also, I've installed all new drivers, flashed the BIOS, added additional fans (2 in, 2 out), added additional heatsinks to the card, and spent an entire week un/reinstalling various Catalyst versions using the uninstall utility. :snip:

    I've even disabled ACPI so I could change the IRQ settings, only to find that my MOBO still would not let me change the values manually, so I pulled out all PCI cards (lan, phone modem.) Still, it crashes with the new drivers.

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    I wiped the drive and reinstalled WinXP before I installed the 9800
    So let me get this straight, was the nvidia in the machine during the reinstall of xp?
    If so, the purpose of reinstalling for the new card was defeated.
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    No no no...the radeon was plugged in by then, just without the drivers installed obviously so it's running like any ol' onboard graphics. =)

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    You mentioned adding heatsinks to the card. Is this when the problems started? Is the fan still turning?

    Example.....I had a customer call me last week with similar crashing and wierd gfx stuff(saphire r9000pro,3 weeks old). Turned out the gpu hsf had stopped spinning. After oiling it, all is good again.

    What exact brand and model is the card? Post a link from where you got it.
    athlon xp-m@2456mhz(12x204)
    tt aquariusII liquid cooled/ arctic silver ceramique
    asus a7n8xe-dlx
    thermaltake xaserIII lanfire
    bfg 6800gt
    seagate sataII 250gb/seagate 7200rpm 160gb ide
    samsung dvdrw
    2x1024 kingston hyper-x pc3200/ windows xp pro sp3
    logitech mx518/ logitech wingman rumble
    2x samsung 955df 19"/ canon i960
    creative x-fi fatal1ty 64mb/ altec lansing 251-5.1
    mushkin 550w

    opteron 146 @ 2850 (10x285)
    DFI infinity nf4 ultra
    thermaltake tsunami dream -black
    seagate sataII 500gb
    evga 8600gt oc ssc edition
    samsung sata dvd-rw
    2x1024 ocz black
    logitech ifeel/ nec accusync 75f
    ocz fatal1ty 550w

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    I added the heat sinks after the crashes began, thinking it might have been heat-related. But I've also gotten crashes only minutes after booting up, and the heatsinks didn't improve the performance at all.

    The heatsinks actually came with a fan, but I didn't install that since the fan on the card is working fine.

    The card is a retail ATI (with the gargoyle on the box), purchased from tigerdirect.com. The problems surfaced about 5 weeks into use, which is past their return/exchange limit of 30 days.

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