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    Yep it's definately Albertron's FX5700Q which is the stock item and not the FX5700U.

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    If its a plain FX5700 the 9600Pro is faster. I've found this to be a handy thing a far as comparing video cards, but I think that the testing has all AA etc. turned off, and that can change things a little (for example the Ti 4600's don't thrash as much of the FX range with AA/AF turned on). Anyway-

    www.digit-life.com/articles2/over2003/

    Its kinda odd in places though- for example the 'standard' 128 mb FX5600 (325/550) is faster than a 'standard' 128 mb FX5700 (425/550) is the Serious Sam tests. I don't know if thats due to arcitecture or something to do with the drivers.

    Unless you've got a preference in the ATI/nVidia flaming match, and want to go purely from the benchmarks then the 9600Pro is the faster card.

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    Thanks a bunch guys I'm going to go with the radeon 9600 pro on newegg.com. The digitlife website especially helped, thanks

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    sorry, had to add one more card into the mix before my final decision. What do you guys think about the MSI nVIDIA GeForce4 TI4600-8X Video Card (newegg.com) against the 9600 pro? The graphs I saw on that site (see above)made me think twice. It beats the radeon 9600 pro in most tests (Serious Sam, UT2003, and others). Plus its $5 less, but thats no biggey...thanks

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    Hey Dr Phil, the Ti4600 is a fast card but it don't have DX9 support.

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    http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...pa=1&section=3
    "Do Not.... I repeat, DO NOT install the drivers provided by MSI. MSI drivers made a mess of things. I am here to save you hours of headaches. Take the blue VGA driver CD that MSI provided and throw it way. Go straight to nVidia's website and download 43.45 for directx 8.1. or download 53.03 for directx 9. MSI makes a good video card. They cannot package a driver. nVidia's drivers will install this card as a ti4800, but it will run great. Installs slightly underclocked at 648x297Mhz - will go past the stock 650x300 but not very high. I never overclock my video and this is a nice, fast card."


    This was a review by someone who bought the card...not sure if its valid or not, you tell me, but it says the man could install directx9....

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    Here is a handy chart from digitlife. I have taken the liberty to mark the cards in question. Green for ti, purple for the only good model of r9600pro, red for the not so good models of 9600/pro, and brown representing the bottom of the barrel. While on the topic, note how with other cards, the 64bit mem interface really kills any card. Especially the fx5200's, the r9200se, and the gf4 mx440. Most noobs get burned on something like this at least once and do not understand why their gfx/speed suck so bad, prompting them to look elsewhere for gfx speed in vain.

    Oh and a ti4800 is just a 8x agp ti4600. The guy that made that post on newegg knows nothing.
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    There is a difference between being able to install DX9 and being able to take advantage of it. For example a mx420 did not support DX8, but you could install DX8 and play DX8 games it just would not utilize those functions. Given your current choices the 9600 Pro would be your option to go with, but you may want to suck it up and spend just a little more. Shop around and compare the prices vs. what you are getting. Once you come up with the initial cash you said something along the lines of 140 bucks. You would be suprised if you just put say another 40 to 50 with that what you could find. I believe that even getting a 9600 Pro, you would be left wanting.

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    prices vs. what you are getting
    Exactly why the ti4600 is a better choice overall. $140us is a steal for a card in the speed range of a r9700pro/non pro eregardless of dx9. When the average current game uses dx9, the whole game is not based on it, and uses only a few features at most. Most people would never know the difference anyway as long as the speed is there. You would be hard pressed trying to find something even a bit better without having to spend at least $100us+ more.

    edit... they even throw in a t-shirt, 5 blank dvd's, or a hat.
    athlon xp-m@2456mhz(12x204)
    tt aquariusII liquid cooled/ arctic silver ceramique
    asus a7n8xe-dlx
    thermaltake xaserIII lanfire
    bfg 6800gt
    seagate sataII 250gb/seagate 7200rpm 160gb ide
    samsung dvdrw
    2x1024 kingston hyper-x pc3200/ windows xp pro sp3
    logitech mx518/ logitech wingman rumble
    2x samsung 955df 19"/ canon i960
    creative x-fi fatal1ty 64mb/ altec lansing 251-5.1
    mushkin 550w

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    yeah it seems apparent the ti4600 is my best choice...unless it doesnt support directx9 (which I'm 90% it does).
    Thanks for that visual

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