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Thread: New 9800 pro not working help plz




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    Default New 9800 pro not working help plz

    I just ordered a MSI 9800 pro and now it is locking up my computer.

    At first i though my PSU was to blame as it is only 300 watts but in running some tests to figure out if that was it I don't think it is.

    I took out some pci cards and disconected the floppy drive. Which seemed to increase the lenght of time before it crashed (which i now think may have been due to air flow).

    But then I ran 3dmark01 and found that it crashs on the nature test. I tested this by running nature in a loop and it would crash after one go around (right at the begining of the second run).

    It crashes by freezing up for a second (if in a game with sound the sound goes into a loop) then the monitor loses the signal, then it goes to a gray screen if in a game or goes to artifacts in 3dmark (after it crashs to the desktop)

    I am switching from a nvidia ti 4400 so I am not familar with how ati cards act when they over heat.

    So my questions is what could be the possible problems or is there something i did wrong.
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    Its quite possible you don't have enough power. Low Power can make alot of weird things happen.

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    any test you suggest I perform to find out if this is the problem? I don't want to spend 50 or so bucks and find out I was wrong.

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    unfortally I don't have any computer aside from this pos dell my parents have (doesn't even have a apg slot)

    could the fact that i have 4x apg not 8x change anything?

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    I would likely say that the PSU is the prob or you didn't remove all traces of the old nVIDIA drivers, also running that card at 4x AGP will not effect it but if you have fast writes enabled then disable them to see if that helps.

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    If you're running WinXP and removed the old card from the Control Panel, you probably are not having problems with the different drivers. Considering you began removing items and it extended the time before crash, I'll go along with the others and say this is likely causing your problems. The ATi high-end boards with the supplemental power Molex are some of the most power hungry boards made. 300 watts simply isn;t enough anymore when talking about an enthusiast rig. I generally recommend at least a 400 watt unit and then make sure you get one from a reputable company. 450 watts is even better if you can afford it.

    As for testing, find a buddy with a more powerful PSU and install it in your system. This requires no mods to any configuration files and gives you immediate results. If the system runs well, you've got the problem identified. If this doesn't fix your crashing problem, let us know a bit more information about the crashes and we'll go from there.
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    from my tests it seems that heat is a factor, I say this because running a room fan next to the open case bought me so extra time as well.

    Is is possible that this was just taking some stress off the PSU by:
    1. removing heat from psu to make it work better (it was very hot in my room when i started)?
    2. removed stress from the PSU becuase fans didn't have to run as hard?
    3. something else?


    unfortunaly I am home for the summer and all my friends with decent systems are there

    any ideas for a decent psu around 50 dollars?

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    1- Unlikely. Your FDD drive and most PCI peripherals (except PCI video) don't generally create a lot of heat.

    2- The fan speeds won't change when you remove something unless you maybe have a thermal controlled rheostat in place.

    3- Possible but unlikely.

    As for finding a PSU, try www.newegg.com if you're in the States as they have good prices and won't rape you on shipping costs.
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    yeah i like newegg was looking at this:

    http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...153-006&depa=0

    do you think it would do the trick for me?

    but the real question (i guess) is what do you make of heat seeming to affect how long before it crashes?

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    $45 for a Thermaltake 420 including shipping? Not bad.

    First off, heat could cause some problems, but since you have not given us any temperatures reported by the mainboard sensors, I can't say for sure one way or another. At any rate, the power supply needs to be replaced regardless of heat issues so it won't be money wasted by getting a new unit in place. If heat becomes an issue later we can address that at a very minimal cost (but maybe a little effort with a drill or Dremel).
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