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    Default I'm looking for your opinion on my New System.

    Hi all,

    I've been a little back on forth on some of my choices after hastily dumping $2200 on a new system. I'm looking for opinions as to what were right and which where wrong (or at least could have been better).

    INTEL P4 3.0E Ghz 1Mb
    ASUS PC800-E-DX
    AMPX 512Mb PC4000 (x2 for a total of 1Gb)
    MAXTOR 250Gb Sata 8Mb
    SH 465W Power Supply
    SAPPHIRE x800 Pro ViVo 256Mb


    What should i have done differently?

    P.S. > Is it worth it for me to buy an Soundblaster Audigy 2 sound card?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dberladyn
    Hi all,

    I've been a little back on forth on some of my choices after hastily dumping $2200 on a new system. I'm looking for opinions as to what were right and which where wrong (or at least could have been better).

    INTEL P4 3.0E Ghz 1Mb
    ASUS PC800-E-DX
    AMPX 512Mb PC4000 (x2 for a total of 1Gb)
    MAXTOR 250Gb Sata 8Mb
    SH 465W Power Supply
    SAPPHIRE x800 Pro ViVo 256Mb


    What should i have done differently?

    P.S. > Is it worth it for me to buy an Soundblaster Audigy 2 sound card?
    I would have gone with an AMD64 - better performance for less $$$$
    ATI Radeon X800XL | AMD XP2800 | Nvidia Nforce 2 M7NCD | Corsair Twinx1024XL 1024mb RAM | Sea Gate ST3120022A 7200 RPM 120 gig Hard Drive | Audigy2 ZS

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    Default Re: I'm looking for your opinion on my New System.

    Yep. If you spend $2200 on a gaming system and it has a 3.0E, it was a waste of money. You can't even take full advantage of the video card...

    Oh well. At least make use of that PC4000 and overclock the hell out of that thing.

    Edit: That's assuming you're in the U.S., anyway...
    Last edited by Yawgm0th; 09-17-2004 at 06:36 AM.

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    Default Re: I'm looking for your opinion on my New System.

    Really? I don't understand AMD, how much faster would my system be? What features on teh video card can I not use? Which AMD Processor and ASUS motherboard should I have bought?

    Maybe I'll sell my P3.0E ($240) and PC800-E-DX($238), it was only a $500 investment, the card was more. Tell me what i should have!

    P.S. Sorry for posting this in the wrong forum.

    P.P.S. >> Prices are in CANADIAN Dollars.

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    Default Re: I'm looking for your opinion on my New System.

    Well, it's not so bad if it's Canadian dollars. Still, that's around $1700 U.S. Even with high Canadian prices, that's not good.

    It's not that you can't use the video card, it's that you're bottlenecking it.

    If you can get an MSI K8N Neo Platinum 2 and Athlon 64 3500, those would be good replacements. It will be a bit over $500 Canadian, though...

    After that, get some super cooling and overclock the processor. You buy PC4000 RAM for overclocking. It performs poorly at PC3200 speeds because of poor latencies.

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    Default Re: I'm looking for your opinion on my New System.

    Yes its Canadian dollars, I also forgot to mention there is 14.5% sales tax and Windows XP Professional included in that CDN $2200 figure. sorry.

    Hey.. I've overclocked to 3.4Ghz...

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    Default Re: I'm looking for your opinion on my New System.

    Try for a lot more than 3.4 GHz... Well, what kind of cooling system do you have?

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    Default Re: I'm looking for your opinion on my New System.

    How much more?

    I have a 24" steel tower and I just bought a couple of case fans and and a Cooler Master Aerogate 4.

    http://www.coolermaster.com/index.ph...ero%204%20Lite .

    I think I'd have done better if my CPU heatsik had copper instead of aluminum. I don't understand why all heatsinks aren't copper, doesn't it conduct heat much better?

    I've raised the frequency to 227mhz (FSB of 900mhz), no voltage increases, no latency changes 3-4-4-8, no agp changes. At 228mhz I had the occasional sudden reboot so I dropped it down a notch. I play FAR CRY with the settings completely maxed and witha resolution of 1600x1200. I figure this is a good stressor.

    After a good hour or two of playing, if I reboot and look at the bios... I can see a motherboard temp of 25C and a CPU temp of 50-53C. What would you suggest my next move to be?
    Last edited by dberladyn; 09-19-2004 at 03:31 PM.

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    Default Re: I'm looking for your opinion on my New System.

    Get some Arctic Silver 5 and maybe a new cooler because you're probably getting temperature limitation. I'd also suggest you change your RAM's tRAS (the biggest number) to 9 or higher because anything lower would be improper tRAS (and will perform slightly worse).
    You are correct that copper conducts heat better. But it also costs more than aluminum and it heavier. Most HSFs meant for good overclocking are made of copper. In fact, the award they quote on that page is this:
    PureOC Recommended: "I'd advice this cooler to anyone without serious overclocking ambitions."

    I'm not sure how much you can get with a 3.0E, but I think you could bring the FSB as high as 250MHz with better cooling. You may also need to raise CPU voltage to get any higher.

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    Default Re: I'm looking for your opinion on my New System.

    Ok.. so I am coming to conclude I've wasted a lot of money on the wrong equipment. I have a few questions about overclocking....

    my frequency right now is 227mhz, this brings my FSB to 900mhz... what does that do to the AGP port and the video card? I just started noticing today that trees in FAR CRY are showing up with red leaves and trunks. Am I ruining my equipment?

    You think I can get to 250 mhz eh? What would that bring me to? 3.75 ghz? Thats a 25% overclock...

    I'll increase the tRas to 9.

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