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    Default Re: upgrade from R9800pro to X700 PCI-E

    Ok... I guess I'm not upgrading then.... When should I upgrade to PCI-E? When new cards comes out or when new games come out?
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    Default Re: upgrade from R9800pro to X700 PCI-E

    When your mainboard and CPU need to be upgraded but atm an AGP 6800 would be a better video upgrade for you.

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    Honestly, I just want your truthful answer, how long do you think this comp will last me until I actually need an upgrade? I'm 17 and I should really start saving money for a car. My last $600, I blew on my tux for jr prom and this comp.
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    Default Re: upgrade from R9800pro to X700 PCI-E

    Well, for a little while at least. I think I'll upgrade when the new technology is just too good to pass up, like when the Dual-Core processors are out, next generation PCI-E cards are out, when the new SATA features start showing up......that kind of stuff.
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    Default Re: upgrade from R9800pro to X700 PCI-E

    Quote Originally Posted by jd53887
    Honestly, I just want your truthful answer, how long do you think this comp will last me until I actually need an upgrade? I'm 17 and I should really start saving money for a car. My last $600, I blew on my tux for jr prom and this comp.
    It depends on your preference. That machine will last two more years before it's even relativley low-end, but you might be unhappy with the performance sooner than that. You might also not feel like upgrading for another 3-4 years. I'd say in 6-12 months you'll be where I was not so long ago; P4 2GHz, 512MB PC2100 RAM, Radeon 9200SE. I ended up getting a 9800 Pro, which would be like you getting a Geforce 6800GT right now (r within the next year). The only difference is that PCI-E is now available both from AMD and Intel, while socket 754 wasn't even around when I upgraded, meaning there was no reason for me not to get an AGP card.

    Your video card is the only real problem, right now, so you could just upgrade that to a 6800 of some sort. If you did a total system rebuild with PCI-E, it would mostly be to ensure upgaradbility as a PCI-E socket 939 motherboard will see anywhere from 3 - 6 years before there's just about any reason to upgrade, and more like 4-7 years before it really becomes necessary for replacement (assuming it's still alive after all that time).

    The PCI-E grahpcis card won't do much on its own for quite a while, but there are other benefits to a PCI-E system. As I said, there's better upgradability. Also, you're no longer limited by the PCI bus for anything but whatever PCI cards you put in (and not much besides a sound card or TV tuner would even have a reason to go in), so everything from gigabit ethernet to HDD/RAID controller cards can be used to their fullest potential. That's when PCI-E cards start coming out, as Joe menitoned, though any integrated devices (meaning gigabit ethernet, IDE, and SATA controllers) will already see advantage, but probably nothing you'd notice or even take advantage of right away.

    But unless you're looking at replacing this system now, which is going to cost anywhere from $500-$1000 U.S., depending on what you buy and what you use from your existing system, you should either upgrade the video card right now/soon for better gaming performance, if you have problems with your current performance, or just wait until a PCI-E socket + 939 upgrade is both cheaper, more beneficial, and actually desired (e.g. you want better performance; I'd suggest you never buy a different CPU for your current machine).
    Last edited by Yawgm0th; 12-31-2004 at 06:01 AM.

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    Default Re: upgrade from R9800pro to X700 PCI-E

    that's just wat i needed to hear. My performance is great actually, I just hate the fact that I can't change my voltage settings. I really want to see how much more all my stuff can go. So I figured get a new mobo. Then I thought, why get a new mobo that's not a PCI-E and then I just started to want more. I have the best comp I know around here, cept one of my friend who has an 9800XT. THX for all ur help. I'll just not buy anything until I cant play a game on medium settings.
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    Default Re: upgrade from R9800pro to X700 PCI-E

    You can make a -Pro an -XT you know.......just in case you really want the best comp around.
    Intel Pentium 4 2.53GHZ 533FSB
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    no.. i cant... I got the gay R350 core....
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    Default Re: upgrade from R9800pro to X700 PCI-E

    With some aftermarket cooling and some overclocking it'll be just as good.
    Intel Pentium 4 2.53GHZ 533FSB
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    POWTEC Demon 480W PSU
    Dell UltraSharp 18001FP 18" LCD Monitor
    Windows XP Professional SP2

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    Default Re: upgrade from R9800pro to X700 PCI-E

    Not always... In fact, you usally can't flash. Some 9800 Pros flash to XT, and some X800 Pros can have the four pipelines enabled and be flashed to X800XT (though they lack a Rage Theater chip and are never technically XT).

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