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    Default Video card upgrade

    I am wanting to upgrade my pc but on very tight budget. Please read my sig for my current rig. I want to upgrade my video and ram mostly. I am contemplating getting a Radeon X1600pro card from Newegg. Is it wise to get this card when I'm still using an old xp1800+ AMD cpu? If not, then which card would be recommended with my config for less than 130 bucks? Also, would it be wise to get a stick of 512mb of ram to go in my third slot when I'm using 2 sticks of 256mb in the other 2 slots for a total of 1024mb of ram? I could upgrade my cpu but I don't really want to mess with flashing my bios to be able to go bigger than a xp2200+. With a flash I could go up to a xp2800+. Thanks, Doug...
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    Last edited by catdug; 04-02-2006 at 11:48 PM.
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    Default Re: Video card upgrade

    Your system is struggling in more areas than just the video card. You never said what you want to be able to do with it, but if its for modern popular PC video games then I'd say its on the obsolete side of things. It would be more practical to get a new mainboard and start from scratch.

    I'm not too familiar with the Radeon X1600pro video card but make sure the card is compatible with your AGP port on your mainboard, you should also make sure your PSU can hadle a card like that.

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    Default Re: Video card upgrade

    I mainly want a decent agp directx9.0 card that can work right along with my cpu. I mainly play America's Army online and Tiger Woods 2004. Not much of any new games. Actually none. What about the Geforce 6600 vga or asus with 256mb of DDR ram in agp? And what about the ram question? I appreciate any all help.
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    Default Re: Video card upgrade

    Quote Originally Posted by catdug
    I mainly want a decent agp directx9.0 card that can work right along with my cpu. I mainly play America's Army online and Tiger Woods 2004. Not much of any new games. Actually none. What about the Geforce 6600 vga or asus with 256mb of DDR ram in agp? And what about the ram question? I appreciate any all help.
    You should be able to play TW 2004 with your system. Looking at the requirements for America's Army seems to be close in the range of your system but maybe it's a little weak. If you haven't already, I suggest updating your video card drivers to see if that helps first. 512 MB system ram should be fine for old games like those 2.
    If AA is worth the price of a new video card to play then I suggest you get either a real good modern card as you have talked about incase you ever decide to use it in a new system someday if thats possible with AGP, but anyway you look at it, this would be overkill for that system, or I would look for a cheap, maybe used Radeon 9800 series video card and save some money if thats possible. Your PSU should be sufficent if you go this route, but I'm not too sure about a more modern card.

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    Default Re: Video card upgrade

    Quote Originally Posted by catdug
    I am wanting to upgrade my pc but on very tight budget. Please read my sig for my current rig. I want to upgrade my video and ram mostly. I am contemplating getting a Radeon X1600pro card from Newegg. Is it wise to get this card when I'm still using an old xp1800+ AMD cpu? If not, then which card would be recommended with my config for less than 130 bucks? Also, would it be wise to get a stick of 512mb of ram to go in my third slot when I'm using 2 sticks of 256mb in the other 2 slots for a total of 1024mb of ram? I could upgrade my cpu but I don't really want to mess with flashing my bios to be able to go bigger than a xp2200+. With a flash I could go up to a xp2800+. Thanks, Doug...


    new pci express amd 64 754 mobo for $45!with onboard video til u get cash to buy card!http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...2E16813130526R

    amd 64 to put on it(no semprons!)
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103606

    best $170 u ever spent in your life..
    • AMD Athlon XP 1800+
    • Albatron KX400+ PRO MoBo w/ VIA KT333 chipset & USB 2.0
    • 360 watt PSU
    • 256mb X 2 PC2700 Samsung DDR ram
    • PNY NVIDIA GeForce4 ti4200 w/64mb DDR Video Card
    • SONY 52x12x52 CDRW
    • LG 16x DVD-ROM
    • USB 1.1 PCI card
    • Hauppauge Win/TV capture card
    • floppy drive
    • Maxtor 7200 rpm 40 gig HDD
    • Wireless-B Linksys Router w/1240mps dsl
    • KDS 17" flatscreen crt
    • Logitech optical mouse
    • Cyber Acoustics 40 watt speakers w/sub
    • WIN XP HOME OEM w/SP2
    • 3DMark2001SE score: 9661 @ all stock clock settings w/detonator 43.00's
    • CPU temp@43C w/stock HSF
    • System temp@33C w/one 80mm front intake, one 80mm side intake(blue LED), and one 60mm rear exhaust fan
    for starters x1600 is pci express not agp plus its a 4 pixel pipeline card(yuk!)get a minumum of 8 pixel pipeline card.think of pipelines as cy;nders like in a engine,more pipelines more power,get a 6600gt(8 pipes) or something...read this guide i made here dude...1 gig minimum for most games now..http://forums.tweaktown.com/showthread.php?t=21801
    Last edited by bf2nut; 04-03-2006 at 12:09 PM.
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    Default Re: Video card upgrade

    I beg to differ with you about the x1600 being only pci-e. Newegg has it in agp. Do I have to have a freed up 4 prong molex power connector that is not attached to anything else to use to connect to a 9800 pro? Sorry bf2nut, but I'm not near the hard core gamer that you are. I haven't the time nor the money for all that much playing. I just want to beef up what I have a little bit for the games I mentioned earlier. Thanks anyway.
    Last edited by catdug; 04-03-2006 at 06:09 PM. Reason: Wasn't finished
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    Default Re: Video card upgrade

    Quote Originally Posted by catdug
    I beg to differ with you about the x1600 being only pci-e. Newegg has it in agp. Do I have to have a freed up 4 prong molex power connector that is not attached to anything else to use to connect to a 9800 pro?
    Yes, or an extension can be used. Sounds like you have a cheap PSU if you don't have an extra pwer connector end not in use with just your current stuff.

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    $112-6600 smokes the x1600 in my opinon..no brainer agp card,trying to help u man,bash me all u want im used to it here,yet i still try to help ppl here....why? mabye im to abrasive?

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814133013

    btw bro how much money did u wanna stay under?$200-$150-$100?
    Last edited by bf2nut; 04-05-2006 at 09:05 AM.
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    biostar TP67XE(this mobo is amazing)
    xfi-xtrememusic,klipsch ultras 5.1/500 watt amp,
    sen hd-595s headphones,logitech stick mic
    co0lermaster-1250 watt real pro powersupply = 99ampz!
    Evga Hydro Gtx 590 on 24"Sony FW-900 at 2304x1440 80 hz = 80 solid fps 16:10 black ops!
    Hi quality CRTS are built for gaming!!!O.L.E.D is the future,not Liquid Crap Displays(lcds)!

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    Default Re: Video card upgrade

    He said $130.

    If you do feel the need to upgrade your video card, a 6600GT would be a good choice. I'd say it's probably overkill, but you'll at least be able to max out settings and get great framerates. If something does come along that interests you, you'll be prepared as well, if only just barely.

    However, if you want to save some money and still be okay with what you have, you could get something even cheaper. A 6600 would still be okay, and you could even live with a Radeon 9550/9600 (though that would be the minimum I'd get at this point). I'd recommend you get a 6600GT, however I thought I'd throw that option out there.

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    Default Re: Video card upgrade

    Quote Originally Posted by bf2nut


    $112-6600 smokes the x1600 in my opinon..no brainer agp card,trying to help u man,bash me all u want im used to it here,yet i still try to help ppl here....why? mabye im to abrasive?

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814133013

    btw bro how much money did u wanna stay under?$200-$150-$100?
    Nobody bashed you, bf2nut. I was just CORRECTING you. Don't be so sensitive, man. And I DO appreciate your help. Anyway, I just bought a 9800 pro on eBay last night for $65.00 + s&h. So, thanks for all the replies, guys. I think I'll get me another stick of 256 mb of ram(3 X 256mb) instead of the 512 mb, just in case my motherboard wants all the same size stix. You think it makes any diff? Like in having one stick of 512 and two stix of 256(1024mb total) as opposed to having all the same size ram? Also, what about upgrading my cpu? Is there really any need in that? Or will I just be beating a dead horse?
    • Intel Pentium E2180 Allendale 2.0GHz LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor
    • GIGABYTE GA-G31M-S2L LGA 775 Intel G31 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard
    • COOLER MASTER eXtreme Power Plus RS-460-PMSR-A3 460W ATX12V V2.3 Power Supply
    • G.SKILL 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory
    • One EVGA 256-P2-N751-TR GeForce 8600 GT 256MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 SLI Supported Video Card
    • SONY 52x12x52 CDRW
    • LG 16x DVD-ROM
    • Zonet 4+1Port USB2.0 PCI Card
    • Hauppauge Win/TV capture card
    • Generic floppy disc drive
    • Western Digital Caviar SE WD1600AAJS 160GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive
    • Wireless-802.11B Linksys Router w/2200 mbps dsl
    • ViewSonic VA721 17" flatscreen lcd monitor
    • Logitech optical mouse
    • Cyber Acoustics 40 watt speakers w/sub
    • WIN XP HOME w/SP3 OEM
    • 3DMark2001SE score: 25182, 3DMark03: 15040, 3DMark05: 9538
    • CPU temp@28C w/stock HSF
    • Black Generic Case w/self cut side window w/one 80mm front intake, one 80mm side intake(blue LED), and one 60mm rear exhaust fan

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