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    Default Econo gaming rig

    I'm at it again. I'm trying to peice together another rig for someone that wants a machine that will play todays most system demanding video games, but I need to shave costs. A system for $800 total (without monitor).
    I was kinda thinking that either an X1800 GTO or a Geforce 7600GT might be a good chhoice for the video card or do you guys think something else is a better bang for the buck? Also what CPU should I pair with the card of choice with?

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    Default Re: Econo gaming rig

    Overclocked or not? Any special storage requirements (e.g. more than a 80GB 7200RPM drive)? Peripherals needed?

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    not the x1800gto, its a cut down high end card, while the 7600gt is a dedicated mid-range card (ok i borrowed that phrase from a review)
    the 7600 is quieter, while they perform around the same ( the GTO is supposed to be better with more AA, tho)
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    AMD athlon 64 3200 venice @ 2.4ghz
    Asrock Dual-939SATA2
    Sapphire Radeon X800GTO2 chip r430 @ 480mhz core/540mhz mem with 1.6v vcore
    1gb Corsair XMS TwinX PC3200 timings 2-3-3-6 at 400mhz
    250gb Hitatchi deskstar T7K500 SATAII disk
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    Default Re: Econo gaming rig

    I was just looking at this card on Newegg. I think it fits the bill. What do you think? EVGA TX Geforce 7600GS 256MB

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130020


    Yawg, the person purchasing this system will be a novice user, so overclocking probably won't happen. He has kids that like the modern day shooters like BF2 ect and I want to make this system Windows Vista premium ready for their family. Specs below. Any idea how to tell if a GPu supports Windows Aero2?

    By the way I liked the Asus A8N5X mainboard you suggested for the last system I built. I might consider going with the same board again this time around.

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    try to get a GT, or else, go for the GTO. you should be able to get a GT for not much more money than a GS. it will be better for the money. a card which runs areo2 should simply be a shader model 3 card, but im not 100% on that one.
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    1gb Corsair XMS TwinX PC3200 timings 2-3-3-6 at 400mhz
    250gb Hitatchi deskstar T7K500 SATAII disk
    160gb samsung spinpoint PATA disk
    Asus 1608P2 DVD+/-RW Dual Layer
    Unbranded 500W PSU single 17A rail
    Innovatek and Asetek Watercooling (triple fan radiator)
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    Default Re: Econo gaming rig

    Quote Originally Posted by Munkul
    try to get a GT, or else, go for the GTO. you should be able to get a GT for not much more money than a GS. it will be better for the money. a card which runs areo2 should simply be a shader model 3 card, but im not 100% on that one.
    It would be about $50 more for the cheapest GT version of the card at Newegg. Do you think it would be that much better? Remember I'm shooting for an econo system here but I do want it to play the latest and greatest games at default settings and as far beyond as I can go without spending a bunch of dough that'll scare this guy away.
    I'm probably going to go with an Atholon 64 3500+ CPU in the system to save on funds, not really sure what AMD CPU's can do or where I should be targeting an econo system's CPU at that can get the job done. So far I've only put together one AMD based system and it has a Dual core 3800 in it, which would be overkill$$ in this situation. Its been all Intel for me until the last system, so I don't have a good feel for the performance range I'm trying to hit using an AMD CPU, I'm really just guessing here.


    Shader model 3 = areo2. Could it be?
    Last edited by Spongebob; 06-30-2006 at 12:37 AM.

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    Last time I checked, any hardware Direct X 9.0 card will handle all of Vista's GUI features, but it may need a 9.0c card. It's irrelevant because you'll be getting a 9.0c card either way.

    That lack of overclocking is unfortunate, but we can deal. An AM2 system will be most appropriate. Intel has absolutely nothing right now except for overclocked and small form factor systems. If you can wait until July 23rd to buy the CPU, do so, because AMD CPUs are taking a huge price hit. If not, try for a 3800 single-core. I don't know where you're looking, but the prices right now are perfect for this system. All single-core CPUs are under $200, basically. This ought to be the perfect board.
    That's about $220 for board and CPU.

    Throw in a GB of DDR2 for $70 and you've got $290.

    Now get a 450-480W PSU (try Antec or Fortron at this price range, you should be under $70), call it $350.

    Make it $400 after an 80GB hard drive.

    Decent case and a DVD/CD-RW, call it $480.

    Over $300 left and all you need is a video card. If gaming is a major priority, blow the rest here and get an X1800XL, X1800XT, 7800GT, or 7900GT. However, if gaming isn't that important and they just need to be able to play the games for a few years, grab a 7600GT.

    That would leave well over $100, which ought to be spent making that 3800 into an X2 3800.

    You may think it's overkill, but it's not. Dual-core is considered mid-range, and when Vista comes out the only single-core systems will be using processors geared at developing (read: third-world) markets. As of July 23rd, dual-core is entry-level. Vista and programs developed for it will utilize multiple threads, and AMD supposedly is going to unlock a technology that allows two cores to work together on a single thread, a sort of reverse hyperthreading.

    Basically:
    Wait 23 days and go dual-core with a high-end video card or get a mid-range video card and go dual-core now. If it must be purchased now and gaming is critical, get a high-end video card and single-core processor.

    If you wait, you could also consider getting 2GB of RAM (which will be standard mid-range amount as of Vista's release) and sticking with a 7600GT. I'm given the impression that this isn't in a big rush, and that gaming is more of an afterthought, so that may be the best option.
    Last edited by Yawgm0th; 06-30-2006 at 02:35 PM.

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    Default Re: Econo gaming rig

    well, i looked about (and if you havnt already bought one) and the 7600gs isnt as good. the x1600xt beats it in most games - i looked at tbreak website, and the 6800gs beats it too. therefore, using my excellent skills of deduction and logic, i say the gt will be better value :)
    System Specs:
    AMD athlon 64 3200 venice @ 2.4ghz
    Asrock Dual-939SATA2
    Sapphire Radeon X800GTO2 chip r430 @ 480mhz core/540mhz mem with 1.6v vcore
    1gb Corsair XMS TwinX PC3200 timings 2-3-3-6 at 400mhz
    250gb Hitatchi deskstar T7K500 SATAII disk
    160gb samsung spinpoint PATA disk
    Asus 1608P2 DVD+/-RW Dual Layer
    Unbranded 500W PSU single 17A rail
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    Default Re: Econo gaming rig

    X1800XL is the king of the crop in the mid range card market with nothing that needs to be unlocked and it will hammer every other card listed here so far. Even an X1800 XT 512MB can be found for $200 if you look hard enough and act fast when you find one. The 7600 series cards are surprising good, but they just don't hold a candle to the XL/XT cards. GTO's are decent cards, but those missing pipes make is an entry level card.
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    Default Re: Econo gaming rig

    yup, if poss, git a x1800xl.
    System Specs:
    AMD athlon 64 3200 venice @ 2.4ghz
    Asrock Dual-939SATA2
    Sapphire Radeon X800GTO2 chip r430 @ 480mhz core/540mhz mem with 1.6v vcore
    1gb Corsair XMS TwinX PC3200 timings 2-3-3-6 at 400mhz
    250gb Hitatchi deskstar T7K500 SATAII disk
    160gb samsung spinpoint PATA disk
    Asus 1608P2 DVD+/-RW Dual Layer
    Unbranded 500W PSU single 17A rail
    Innovatek and Asetek Watercooling (triple fan radiator)
    LOTS OF METAL

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