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    Default MSI Cyclone R6850 Power Edition OC - Freezing and Driver recovery problem

    I've built a new Gaming PC and am having stability issues along with lower than average benchmarking results on the Graphics card.

    I'm not 100% sure if my problem is indeed with my Video card, however it seems the most likely at the moment, I have posted the issues i'm having in another forum, but to no avail. I dont want to get into a situation with the retailer where i'm wasting time and money on postage on returning and re-shipping items.

    Randomly (more often on 3D applications now), the screen will freeze, sometimes go black then re-appear and an error message from the system tray will appear “display driver stopped responding & has recovered”. The system will then operate as normal until the next freeze.

    I have tried all versions of the 64 bit drivers available from the MSI and AMD websites, using CCleaner to ensure a clean install, with no real change in the issue.

    My system is running at stock, out the box speeds, with no overclocking on my part. The components are listed below;

    Cooler Master Elite 430 Case
    Cooler Master Silent Pro Gold 600W Modular Power Supply
    GigaByte GA-P67A-UD4 (Version B3) Mobo (BIOS version F5)
    IntelCore
    i5 2500K unlocked
    4GB 2x2GB Corsair CMX4GX3M2B1600C9 Memory
    Coolermaster HYPER 212 PLUS COOLER
    MS Win 7 Home Prem 64bit OEM
    Samsung 22" Syncmaster 2253BW

    I'm a bit of a noob, but reading around you may want this further information;

    CPU Core voltage 1.240
    QPI/VTT 1.05

    MSI Cyclone R6850 Power Edition OC - Freezing and Driver recovery problem-cpu-z_overview-jpg

    Large images here - Image hosting, free photo sharing & video sharing at Photobucket - The first image showing the voltage across the +12v as being 3.79v occurred after three temp crashes in quick succession.

    Some things i've noticed that i'm unsure about;

    1. The Corsair CMX4GX3M2B1600C9 Memory is labelled as 1.65v, when using either 'fail-safe' or 'optimised' defaults in the BIOS they always go to 1.5v, also there is no option to set it at 1.65v in the BIOS, it goes from 1.64v to 1.66v - i've read there may be some issues with this memory and it's compatibility, would be good to hear some informed feedback.
    2. If you find the screencap image (link above) of CPU-Z on the graphics tab (8th image along) the revision and clock information is missing completely, is this normal, or would it point towards a fault?

    Any help appreciated.

    TIA

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    Default Re: MSI Cyclone R6850 Power Edition OC - Freezing and Driver recovery problem

    You have 8gb ram installed? There is an option to manually set your rams voltage,set dram voltage to 1.66v for 1.648v in Windows,are you using xmp?

    Could set qpi/vtt voltage to 1.08v and see if it still freezes

    Btw is ram running at 1600mhz?
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    Default Re: MSI Cyclone R6850 Power Edition OC - Freezing and Driver recovery problem

    No, 4GB RAM, 2 x 2GB Corsair CMX4GX3M2B1600C9. 1 stick in slot 1, the other in slot 3 to enable Dual channel. I have tried both XMP disabled and enabled with no change. I've tried running the RAM at Auto (it selects 1333MHz), 1333 & 1600, again the temp/driver crashes keep happening.

    Quote Originally Posted by wazza300 View Post
    You have 8gb ram installed? There is an option to manually set your rams voltage,set dram voltage to 1.66v for 1.648v in Windows,are you using xmp?

    Could set qpi/vtt voltage to 1.08v and see if it still freezes

    Btw is ram running at 1600mhz?

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    Ok,set it to 1600mhz and set dram to 1.66v,set qpi/vtt voltage to 1.08v,if still freezing try 1.10v qpi/vtt
    Gigabyte z77x UP4-TH F11c Modded Bios
    Intel i7 3770k 24/7@4.8ghz 1.38v Turbo llc +0.165v dvid multithreading enabled
    Samsung Green(MV-3V4G3D/US) 8GB @2133mhz 9-10-10-21-1t 1.55v
    Thermalright Silver Arrow Cpu Cooler
    1xSamsung 840 pro 256 Gb SSD windows 8.1 pro 64bit
    1xSamsung f4 HD204UI 2tb hard drive Storage
    Powercolor 7970 3gb V3 @1150mhz core/1700mhz mem,1.150v Accelero aftermarket air cooler 55c max
    Razer Lycosa Keyboard
    Logitech X-530 5.1 Speakers
    Lite-On iHAS124-19 24x Sata DVDRW
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    L.G E2260V L.E.D 1920x1080 Monitor
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    Default Re: MSI Cyclone R6850 Power Edition OC - Freezing and Driver recovery problem

    Thanks. Tried all those settings, World of Tanks and BF3 BETA both lead to instant crashes. BF3 BETA brought up this;

    MSI Cyclone R6850 Power Edition OC - Freezing and Driver recovery problem-bf3_beta_memory_crash-jpg

    I noticed while changing the QPI/VTT to 1.1v that the CPU core voltage had risen to 1.305 (it was set on auto)

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    Default Re: MSI Cyclone R6850 Power Edition OC - Freezing and Driver recovery problem

    Could set CPU voltage to normal in CPU voltage list,then it shouldn't go so high,I don't know what that error is lookslike a direct x drivers error? Could try googling latest direct x drivers and re-installing them,does it crash on any other games?older games?
    Gigabyte z77x UP4-TH F11c Modded Bios
    Intel i7 3770k 24/7@4.8ghz 1.38v Turbo llc +0.165v dvid multithreading enabled
    Samsung Green(MV-3V4G3D/US) 8GB @2133mhz 9-10-10-21-1t 1.55v
    Thermalright Silver Arrow Cpu Cooler
    1xSamsung 840 pro 256 Gb SSD windows 8.1 pro 64bit
    1xSamsung f4 HD204UI 2tb hard drive Storage
    Powercolor 7970 3gb V3 @1150mhz core/1700mhz mem,1.150v Accelero aftermarket air cooler 55c max
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    K-World Hybrid DVB-T 210SE Digital T.V Card
    L.G E2260V L.E.D 1920x1080 Monitor
    Xfx Pro 750w silver rated Psu 80+
    Fractal Arc Midi Case

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    Default Re: MSI Cyclone R6850 Power Edition OC - Freezing and Driver recovery problem

    Update:

    If I turn off anti-aliasing, games appear to play fine (excluding BF3 BETA). Pretty sure I noticed this before (should have mentioned it in the OP), earlier drivers where you could turn off AA altogether meant I was able to play the likes of World of Tanks, however there was instability with 2D applications, especially switching between 2D and 3D applications. The newer drivers dont allow you to turn off AA altogether, just allow you to use low/application defined settings.

    Any idea what it could be?
    Last edited by brduk; 10-03-2011 at 06:22 AM.

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    Default Re: MSI Cyclone R6850 Power Edition OC - Freezing and Driver recovery problem

    Did you download install the direct x package? It's about 100mb with all the monthly versions and it updates any out of date versions,anti aliasing stresses the gpu more than normal so it could be gpu or voltage or memory related,how hot is the card getting? And are you using latest mb BIOS?
    Gigabyte z77x UP4-TH F11c Modded Bios
    Intel i7 3770k 24/7@4.8ghz 1.38v Turbo llc +0.165v dvid multithreading enabled
    Samsung Green(MV-3V4G3D/US) 8GB @2133mhz 9-10-10-21-1t 1.55v
    Thermalright Silver Arrow Cpu Cooler
    1xSamsung 840 pro 256 Gb SSD windows 8.1 pro 64bit
    1xSamsung f4 HD204UI 2tb hard drive Storage
    Powercolor 7970 3gb V3 @1150mhz core/1700mhz mem,1.150v Accelero aftermarket air cooler 55c max
    Razer Lycosa Keyboard
    Logitech X-530 5.1 Speakers
    Lite-On iHAS124-19 24x Sata DVDRW
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    L.G E2260V L.E.D 1920x1080 Monitor
    Xfx Pro 750w silver rated Psu 80+
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    Default Re: MSI Cyclone R6850 Power Edition OC - Freezing and Driver recovery problem

    Downloading the Direct X package now, rev. 9.29.1974

    The highest i've seen the card hit is ~63 degrees during a Furmark benchtest, which I believe is acceptable.

    I'm using the F5 BIOS, a beta F6 came out a couple of days ago, but I try and stay away from Beta products (other than BF3 lol)

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    Default Re: MSI Cyclone R6850 Power Edition OC - Freezing and Driver recovery problem

    Beta bios's are safe to use,I use them all the time,its worth trying to see if it stops the freezing,if not you can always flash back to your old BIOS,I also noticed in that error above it says "total resource memory 0" but that could be down to driver error Idk,63c is fine my card hits 70-72c without issue
    Gigabyte z77x UP4-TH F11c Modded Bios
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    Samsung Green(MV-3V4G3D/US) 8GB @2133mhz 9-10-10-21-1t 1.55v
    Thermalright Silver Arrow Cpu Cooler
    1xSamsung 840 pro 256 Gb SSD windows 8.1 pro 64bit
    1xSamsung f4 HD204UI 2tb hard drive Storage
    Powercolor 7970 3gb V3 @1150mhz core/1700mhz mem,1.150v Accelero aftermarket air cooler 55c max
    Razer Lycosa Keyboard
    Logitech X-530 5.1 Speakers
    Lite-On iHAS124-19 24x Sata DVDRW
    K-World Hybrid DVB-T 210SE Digital T.V Card
    L.G E2260V L.E.D 1920x1080 Monitor
    Xfx Pro 750w silver rated Psu 80+
    Fractal Arc Midi Case

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