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Thread: New CPU: Is it good?




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    Ok, scratch that last post about upgrading my mobo and RAM first, and then upgrading my CPU, it'd cost me close to $800 :wow: . However, providing that this works, I think that getting a new proc now will give me a huge performance boost. Since the board I'm gonna get is an ABIT IS7, which is 400/533/800, the new proc will work on the new mobo when I get it, so I wont waste my money :thumb: . Anyways, here's my plan. My proc is an Intel P4 1.9GHz from Dell. I used the processor ID utility that is d/l'd from intel.com, and it said my packaging is FC-PGA2, which means its a 478-pin. Wow, at least Dell didnt screw me over with a 423-pin :thumb: . Also, it has a 256k on-die L2 Cache, 0.18 micron manufacturing process and 1.75 voltage. The new CPU I would I get would be a an Intel 2.60GHz (A), the fastest CPU my board supports. It's a 478-pin, with a 512k on-die L2 cache, 0.13 micron manufacturing process, and has 1.5-1.55 voltage; the chart doesnt say specifically, here it is if you wanna check it out http://www.intel.com/support/process.../p4compare.htm . Now I have some questions tho. How much more performance will I get out of this? it's 700MHz faster, and has twice the L2 Cache, and (dunno if it makes a difference in performance) a 0.13 micron mp. Right now, UT2003 only drops in fps when I put on alot of characters w/ shadows and decals, so I know my proc is the limiting factor for my comp. Also, could I put on a new CPU with a Dell mobo? I dont see how the Dell BIOS could mess with it, but ya never know, damn Dell . Speaking of putting it in, how hard is it to put in a new CPU? Is there any good online guides to suppliment the manual? And would I need a new Fan and HS, like a Volcano 7+? Right now my proc runs fine, and the new one actually requires less voltage, but ya never know... Anyways, that's all I can think of, any advice/opnions are much appreciated, thx in advance. : peace2: Mista K6
    Modified Dell 8200 Case:
    -400MHz FSB i850 Intel mobo
    -P4 Williamette Socket 478, 1.9GHz
    -768MB 16-bit PC800 RDRAM
    -MSI GF4 Ti4200 128MB @ 284/581
    -7200 RPM Maxtors: 60GB (2MB) on mobo and 160GB (8MB) on ATA/133 PCI Card
    -Creative Inspire T7700 7.1 Speaker System on an Audigy 2
    -Windows XP Home Edition SP2

    Rock on : peace2: , MiStA K6

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    well putting in a cpu is incredibly easy, If u buy a boxed cpu it comes with the very simple instructions, as well as a hsf that u can use :thumb:

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    I checked with Dell, and my mobo only supports up to 2.4GHz (A) CPU. It still has the 0.13 micron mp, and a 512k L2 Cache, just not the speed I would like. However, instead of $230, its $163. So is the 512 cache and 500mhz faster gonna make a big difference? Or should I save my cash, get a new mobo, RAM, Case, and then a 800FSB CPU? Btw, that's good news on the installation tho, thx theyneverknew. Is the HS and fan that Intel provides gonna keep it cool enough?, I obviously cant o/c, so no worries about heat from that :rolleyes2 . : peace2: Mista K6
    Modified Dell 8200 Case:
    -400MHz FSB i850 Intel mobo
    -P4 Williamette Socket 478, 1.9GHz
    -768MB 16-bit PC800 RDRAM
    -MSI GF4 Ti4200 128MB @ 284/581
    -7200 RPM Maxtors: 60GB (2MB) on mobo and 160GB (8MB) on ATA/133 PCI Card
    -Creative Inspire T7700 7.1 Speaker System on an Audigy 2
    -Windows XP Home Edition SP2

    Rock on : peace2: , MiStA K6

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    You might get your mobo to support faster CPU´s with updating your BIOS! :hammer:

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    the hsf that intel provides is more than adequate if ur not gonna oc, my proc used to run in mid 30's C under normal load ~40C at full load :thumb: As to your other question I would suggest saving ur cash until u get enough money to do an almost complete upgrade because the extra 500 mHz will make very little difference if the rest of ur sys doesnt change :cheers:

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    That's what I was thinking too, it wouldn't give me much more performance. Also, I dont wanna waste $163 on slower proc, that makes no sense. I guess I'll go with the new case, mobo and RAM, attach my old 1.9GHz processor to the new board, then acquire some more cash and get an 800FSB proc. That is, whenever they come down from $500usd to around $250 (at the least, $200 would be even better, but we probably wont see that for a loooong time :grr: ). Sad that I have to upgrade all of that just to get a good CPU, wow, I wish I hadnt had bought that extra 512MB of RDRAM, I should've just upgraded my mobo in the first place. Bah... anywho, I'm just ranting :blah: . Thx for the replies : peace2: Mista K6
    Modified Dell 8200 Case:
    -400MHz FSB i850 Intel mobo
    -P4 Williamette Socket 478, 1.9GHz
    -768MB 16-bit PC800 RDRAM
    -MSI GF4 Ti4200 128MB @ 284/581
    -7200 RPM Maxtors: 60GB (2MB) on mobo and 160GB (8MB) on ATA/133 PCI Card
    -Creative Inspire T7700 7.1 Speaker System on an Audigy 2
    -Windows XP Home Edition SP2

    Rock on : peace2: , MiStA K6

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    you can get a p4 2.4Ghz with 800fsb for $200.

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    I would recomend getting the mobo/ram combo and using current CPU.
    The OEM mobos suck! Big time! So you might even see a difference. But I dont think its wise to get slower CPU and then upgrade the rest, and then get another CPU to go with all your faster stuff. Seems like waste of $$$ to me.

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    My thoughts exactly kane, I'll just have to wait a loooong time to get the cash, but I have time :thumb: . Also, I know the 2.4GHz 800FSB proc is $200, but why by that? They have 400MHz and 533MHz FSB proc that are cheaper than that. I was refering to the 3GHz 800FSB procs, those are $500 :wow: . Anywho, : peace2: Mista K6
    Modified Dell 8200 Case:
    -400MHz FSB i850 Intel mobo
    -P4 Williamette Socket 478, 1.9GHz
    -768MB 16-bit PC800 RDRAM
    -MSI GF4 Ti4200 128MB @ 284/581
    -7200 RPM Maxtors: 60GB (2MB) on mobo and 160GB (8MB) on ATA/133 PCI Card
    -Creative Inspire T7700 7.1 Speaker System on an Audigy 2
    -Windows XP Home Edition SP2

    Rock on : peace2: , MiStA K6

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    Scratch that, I just found a 3GHz 800FSB proc for $435, cheaper, but still expensive :cry:
    Modified Dell 8200 Case:
    -400MHz FSB i850 Intel mobo
    -P4 Williamette Socket 478, 1.9GHz
    -768MB 16-bit PC800 RDRAM
    -MSI GF4 Ti4200 128MB @ 284/581
    -7200 RPM Maxtors: 60GB (2MB) on mobo and 160GB (8MB) on ATA/133 PCI Card
    -Creative Inspire T7700 7.1 Speaker System on an Audigy 2
    -Windows XP Home Edition SP2

    Rock on : peace2: , MiStA K6

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