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    Alright, here's my low down.

    Right now I'm walking on the last leg of my Dell Dimension 4100 w/ P3 933Mhz 133 FSB. I've had it since it first came out and its showing its age and abuse. I recently decided to build my own system from the ground up with the help of a very experienced family member. Now, personally, I've never used any other processor except a Pentium. My cousin has used both an AMD and a Pentium and suggests the AMD for my computer needs. I'm a gamer to the core and I'm torn between numbers and adive from a friend.

    I'm trying to decide between these 2 CPUs for my gaming machine:

    Pentium 4 2.6Ghz 800-FSB w/ HT

    or

    AMD Athlon XP 3000+ Barton 333-FSB

    Now. My cos said the AMD is more stable and more easily OC'd, which sounds like it would be fun to do considering this is my first time building a truely custom computer. But then again, I don't have the money to blow anytihng up or replace anything anytime soon after I buy my set up.

    I'm stuck in the middle ground between the familar zones of a Pentium and the highly reccomended and talked about grounds of AMDs.

    Please - I'm not trying to start a flame war between CPU fan boys or nothin' - I just want the best my money can buy for my needs!

    Just ask me anymore information you need to know and I'll spill it!
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    A 2.4c 800fsb is a very good OC, some people OC'ed it over 3.0 with the right cooling. I prefer pentium for my needs, i don't really know about amd so can't help you there :shrug:
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    or you could get an amd barton xp 2500+ and oc it 2 3200+ speeds which would be more bang for your buck, its only like $90......think that'll do with a cooler master x-dream hsf and some thermal compound. or you could go for a 2800+. i'd recommend an asus a7n8x deluxe motherboard as it comes with multiplier settings and all that. which would all go cheaper than a pentium.

    those are my 2 cents as am amd fan:).
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    I'm more of an INTEL man myself but I must say AMD makes some solid chips to. That thing about "AMD is more stable than INTEL" isn't true at all..

    I must say for a gaming machine it doesn't really matter as both chips are about equal to eatch other.

    If you go for AMD make sure to get an Nforce2 based motherboard as those perform the best for the AMD cpu's and uses dual mem channels..
    (I am waiting for my ordered parts to sutch a comp as we speak see specs here)

    If you go INTEL then you should look into the I875 or I865 based mobos as those uses dual ddr 400 mem and will deliver an outrageous amount of sweet bandwith for you system.



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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOne™
    or you could get an amd barton xp 2500+ and oc it 2 3200+ speeds which would be more bang for your buck, its only like ......think that'll do with a cooler master x-dream hsf and some thermal compound. or you could go for a 2800+. i'd recommend an asus a7n8x deluxe motherboard as it comes with multiplier settings and all that. which would all go cheaper than a pentium.

    those are my 2 cents as am amd fan:).
    Wow..didn't know that, but if he is right go with him if you are on a budget and like AMDs :thumb: nice :2cents: , i am actaully gonna make a amd machine soon and that was good info :cheers:
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    Mobo: Abit KN8-SLI
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    Thanks for the great tips guys! I knew when I registered or this forum I'd get the response I wanted.

    Do you by chance have a link for the cooler master website?

    And, does anyone else have any input? Especially on the Pentiums, because those big numbers gotta mean something!


    EDIT: I don't know much about OC'ing for the most part, is it safe to run the processor at those speeds at all times? My Cos has to give me the class on squeezein the extra juice outta my system. :thumb:
    Pentium 4 2.6 800FSB w/HT - 1G Geil DDR400 2.5-3-3-6 - Intel 875P MoBo - Hitachi 80Gb SATA HDD - XP pro
    PowerColor 9700 Pro @ 355/652Mhz
    3DMark03: 5402
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    Overclocking a 2500+ to a 3200+ is no problem at all.
    Mine in fact did it on its own without me trying to OC it at all. 11x200 out of the box. It registers under CPUID as a 3200+ as well.

    Just make sure you get a good aftermarket HSF which was already suggested and you should be fine. Just watch your temps.

    Good luck and have fun with it!

    Chez:cheers:

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    Whats the deal with the bus speeds? Even OC'd Pentium still seems like a monster with that.

    Get to order all these parts next week I'm so friggin excited! :bounce2:
    Pentium 4 2.6 800FSB w/HT - 1G Geil DDR400 2.5-3-3-6 - Intel 875P MoBo - Hitachi 80Gb SATA HDD - XP pro
    PowerColor 9700 Pro @ 355/652Mhz
    3DMark03: 5402
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    In laymans terms - the faster the bus speed the faster the transfer of information.

    I would do a search on google for bus speeds and it might come up with a site or 2 explaining bus speeds, what they are for, why faster is better, and how it correlates to the whole computing experience.

    Its just like a processor, the faster the better, the faster the bus speed the better, the faster the ram the better.

    Small pipe, little water, BIG pipe niagra falls.....

    Hope that helps,
    Chez

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