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    ...I want the computer to be able to handle the newest games, Half Life 2, Doom 3, easily and I want it to be able to run 3d applications fine and fast, such as 3d studio max.

    To start I was thinking of an AMD Athlon 64 and 1 gb of RAM.

    I would like this computer to be at max, $2000.

    Thanx

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    Abit IC7-G Max3 -$200
    Pentium 4 3.2C -$600
    1GB PC4000 -$300
    MSI Gefore FX5900 Ultra 256mb -$500
    Dual 36GB WD Raptors -$230
    Lite-on /CD-RW combo -$35
    Nice case and PSU - $100
    good Aircooling - $70

    BTW thats just a lil over $2000

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    i would get normal athlon system instead

    didnt have time to write price down, but it should be around 2000 buz US

    athlon 2500+ (try to overclock to 2.0-2.3ghz if u can) i say the 2500+ cause then u can have cash for a watercooling setup or a really good air cooling setuop like a SLK-900 with vantec tornado (with fan controller of coruse). If u dont want to OC, then the athlon 3000+ will do, but at that high price, i wont recommend it

    asus a7n8x- deluxe- great features (raid, 2 lan, 6usb, 5pci,sata) and good OCing borad too

    2x512 pc3500 ram- any good brand would do, like OCZ, corsair, kingston etc. If u arnt going to Overclock, then pc 3200 ram will do

    80gb Seagate sata 8mb cache 7200rpm hard drive- I have it, good quite, fast hard drive, at a fair price.

    Radeon 9700 non pro- i say non pro cause u can save some cash, also, with better case/video cooling, u will be able to overclock the v acrd to 9700 pro speed

    430 anitec PSU- this will do the job for ur setup

    case- ur chose with ur money left.- i suggest a case with at less a front fan, a top fan, and a side fan that blows around the PCI area, and backfan'

    hope it helps.

    peace:cheers: : peace:
    My new gaming rig..

    [size=1.28]asus a78nx-deluxe
    2x256mb pc 3200 ddr 400.(with cooling)
    athlon Xp 2500+ ( at 200x10=2000mhz .)
    seagate 80gb 8mb SATA
    Tt vlocano 7+ cpu cooling
    Clear case from HK.
    Leaktek fx5600 128mb
    enermax 350w PSU
    wireless internet setup[/size]


    (game/ftp server) windows xp pro, duron 1.4ghz, 256mb pc 2100 2x40gb Hd, radeon 9200se chieftec dragon
    canada price watch :)

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    Not everyone overclocks their systems, so it's not always the best idea to suggest parts assuming they will overclock...

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    Processor: AMD Athlon 64 3200+ Retail- $429

    Motherboard: 1)Asus K8V Deluxe (VIA chipset)- $138
    2)Chaintech ZNF3-150 Zenith Ultra(Nforce 3 150)- $199
    3) Gigabyte GA-K8NNXP (Nforce 3)- $186
    (It's really your preference, but I have heard good things about these.)

    Memory: CORSAIR MEMORY XMS Extreme Memory 1GB(2 x 512MB) TWINX1024-3200C2 - $246

    Hard Drive: Western Digital Raptor 36GB SATA WD360GD 10,000 RPM 8MB- $224(This is for 2 of them, so it is a total of 72GB) (I would get two of these and set them in Raid0, or you can get 4 and set them in Raid 0+1)

    DVD-ROM+CD-RW: Lite On Black 48x24x48x16 CDROM/CDRW/DVD Combo Drive- $54.99

    Video Card: 1)Guillemot Hercules ATI Radeon 9800 PRO 128MB DDR DVI/TV-out 8X AGP- $395
    2) ASUS RADEON 9800XT 256MB DDR 8X AGP DVI/TV-out RETAIL- $495
    3) WinFast A350 Ultra TDH MyVIVO is powered by nVIDIA's GeForce FX 5900 Ultra GPU with Twin Turbo-II Retail- $390
    (Your preference)

    Case: Anywhere from $70 to $200 (Your preference)

    Power Supply- Antec True Control 550 Watt Power Supply With 2 Fans 5.25 Control Panel Retail- $126

    The total would come out to $1973.99 (US) with the all the most expensive components I picked. All of these prices are from NewEgg. This is a pretty high-end system, but I tried to pick the best components for under $2000.
    Case: Aspire X-Alien Silver
    Power Supply: Antec True430
    Motherboard: Abit IC7-MAX3
    Processor: Pentium 4 2.6c
    Memory: Corsair XMS PC3500 1024MB(512x2)
    Video Card: ATI Radeon 9800 Pro
    Sound Card: Sound Blaster Audigy 2
    Speakers: Logitech Z-680

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    thatz a nice estup mike, but i dont think he willget a good cpu cooling setup with only 20 buz to spend.

    i would go easy on the 550w psu, and get like a 430 or 450 instead. it will save u around 20-30 buz more for better cooling.
    My new gaming rig..

    [size=1.28]asus a78nx-deluxe
    2x256mb pc 3200 ddr 400.(with cooling)
    athlon Xp 2500+ ( at 200x10=2000mhz .)
    seagate 80gb 8mb SATA
    Tt vlocano 7+ cpu cooling
    Clear case from HK.
    Leaktek fx5600 128mb
    enermax 350w PSU
    wireless internet setup[/size]


    (game/ftp server) windows xp pro, duron 1.4ghz, 256mb pc 2100 2x40gb Hd, radeon 9200se chieftec dragon
    canada price watch :)

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    He doesn't have to get a $200 case or the Radeon 9800 XT, if he decides on the 9800 Pro or the 5900 Ultra, that's $100 cheaper than the XT. That will get him around $120-$200(including a cheaper case instead of a $200 one) to get cooling for the system.
    Case: Aspire X-Alien Silver
    Power Supply: Antec True430
    Motherboard: Abit IC7-MAX3
    Processor: Pentium 4 2.6c
    Memory: Corsair XMS PC3500 1024MB(512x2)
    Video Card: ATI Radeon 9800 Pro
    Sound Card: Sound Blaster Audigy 2
    Speakers: Logitech Z-680

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    Quote Originally Posted by amd_man2003
    Abit IC7-G Max3 -0
    Pentium 4 3.2C -0
    1GB PC4000 -0
    MSI Gefore FX5900 Ultra 256mb -0
    Dual 36GB WD Raptors -0
    Lite-on /CD-RW combo -
    Nice case and PSU - 0
    good Aircooling -

    BTW thats just a lil over 00
    No point in buying the 3.2c unless you plan on chilling it to sub zero temps. My little 2.4c kicks the crap out of a 3.2 for a whole lot less money.



    Thats with a $25 Aeroflow in a closed case.....

    FX5900 - 3DMark2001 [20,566] - 3DMark2003 [7,281] - Aquamark3 [56,694]
    Ti4400 - 3DMark2001 [16,028]

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    Indeed, 3.2GHz is a waste of money. Athlon systems, unless its an Athlon 64, get killed by the P4 "C". If you dont plan on over clocking, probably your best bet would be to get:

    MSI Neo2 FIS2R ($150, one of the fastest P4 boards available)
    P4 2.8GHz ($260)
    1GB Corsair PC3200C2PT ($245)
    Radeon 9800Pro ($350)
    60GB IDE Maxtor ($50, use for system files)
    2x WD Raptors ($230, set up in a RAID 0 config, use for games and benchmarking)
    16x DVD Drive ($35)
    52x32x52 CD-RW drive ($50)
    Nice case with great cooling potential and a powerful PSU ($120)
    Cooling ($50)
    Cables/Misc. ($30)

    Total:$1570

    That system should off exceptional performance in games for a while.

    If you're into overclocking, get a 2.6GHz ($210) CPU instead, and 1GB Corsair PC4000 ($351) and o/c it from 200FSB to 250. You'll probably have to spend another $50 on cooling too. Still, that's all way under $2000, and you could go to water cooling if you wanted to. Check that stuff out, : peace2: Mista K6
    Modified Dell 8200 Case:
    -400MHz FSB i850 Intel mobo
    -P4 Williamette Socket 478, 1.9GHz
    -768MB 16-bit PC800 RDRAM
    -MSI GF4 Ti4200 128MB @ 284/581
    -7200 RPM Maxtors: 60GB (2MB) on mobo and 160GB (8MB) on ATA/133 PCI Card
    -Creative Inspire T7700 7.1 Speaker System on an Audigy 2
    -Windows XP Home Edition SP2

    Rock on : peace2: , MiStA K6

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    thanks for all of your suggestions so far...

    I know a good amount of information on computers but I still have some questions regarding components and assembling and configuring these components (as I have never built a computer or installed a new component before). Any direction in what to do is appreciated. Now for some more specific questions:

    Can you reccomend some coolling parts/cases because I dont know what is considered "good" cooling

    Do you reccomend OEM products, or retail products?

    What would need to be done in order to configure multiple hard drives, such as the 2 raptors many of you suggested and any additional HDs (for system files)? I know it involve using RAID but i dont know that much about this either...

    Any help given is greatly appreciate, thanx alot.

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