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    What would perform better?
    ASUS K8V DELUXE SOCKET-754 VIA K8T800@$192.42
    AMD ATHLON 64 3200+ SOCKET-754 - RETAIL@$399.26
    OCZ DUAL CHANNEL PLATINUM EDITION PC3200 2X256MB EL DDR 400MHZ CL2-2-3-5@$189.88
    WESTERN DIGITAL RAPTOR 36.0GB@$181.48X2=$362.96
    ATI RADEON 9800 PRO 128MB@$383.10
    Total: $1527.62
    With old drive: $1164.66

    OR

    ASUS P4C800-E DELUXE SOCKET-478 INTEL @$257.25
    INTEL PENTIUM 4 2.8C GHZ 800 MHZ FSB@$252.28
    OCZ DUAL CHANNEL PLATINUM EDITION PC3200 2X256MB EL DDR 400MHZ CL2-2-3-5@$189.88
    WESTERN DIGITAL RAPTOR 36.0GB@$181.48X2=$362.96
    ATI RADEON 9800 PRO 128MB@$383.10
    Total: $1445.47
    With old drive: $1082.51

    I am goin to use my 60gb 2mb drive and BX32X4 burner to save money at first for the raptors...then on to this memory: CORSAIR TWINX1024-3200LL 1 GB DDR 400MHZ 2X184PIN CAS2-3-2-6 @$372.63. If anyone sees a way to save some money plz let me know. If I wanted to save lots of money I guess I could build an AMD XP...what kinds of parts would you suggest for that?
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    #1 is what I would build. It will score about 20.5k stock in 3DMark01 as soon as you put it together and should be faster in every single game and application you can throw at it than the P4C.

    You could save and go XP but I wouldn't, 64 bit is coming on strong now and I wouldn't invest in old tech. Though, the A64 is not just a 64 bit AXP, its much faster as well at the same clock.

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    I was just thinking of the AMD XP's cuz it would save me money but you are right it is investing in old tech. I was just wondering what type of mobo and chip you would suggest for the XP's. I was thinking of building a comp for now with an XP then when most of the AMD64 bugs are ironed out in the new socket with dual channel I would buy it. Or would it be worth it to spend the extra money now and get the socket 754 AMD64 and last awhile longer before an upgrade is needed?
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    There are new boards coming out soon using new chipsets (namely Nforce3 250, supposed to fix the current NF3 problems).

    But for AMD XP I would recommend a 2500+ Barton and one of the popular ASUS A7N8X, Abit NF7-S, or DFI Infinity boards.

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    Or this:
    A7N8X-E DELUXE SOCKET-A NVIDIA NFORCE2 ULTRA 400 5PCI/AGP8X 3DUAL DDR400 GBLAN SATA RAID 1394 DOLBY AUDIO WI-FI SLOT@$162.33
    AMD ATHLON XP 2500+ BARTON 333 MHZ FSB 512KB CACHE SOCKET-A@$124.80
    OCZ DUAL CHANNEL PLATINUM EDITION PC3200 2X256MB EL DDR 400MHZ CL2-2-3-5@$189.88
    WESTERN DIGITAL RAPTOR 36.0GB@$181.48X2=$362.96
    ATI RADEON 9800 PRO 128MB@$383.10
    Total: $1223.07

    In your opinion do you think it would be worth it to change the fsb to 400 or spend the extra money to get the AMD64?
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    If it were me I would definetely get A64 but I would wait for the new NF3 250 boards.

    It is much faster than AXP.

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    When would we expect those new NF3 250 boards to come out?
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    Socket-939 boards are supposed to come out in Q2, I'd imagine in may or june (could be wrong though). And I'd like to point something out, unless you are doing heavy file transfering or server work with that comp, raptors in a RAID array is overkill. In games you couldnt even tell the difference between that and a 80GBx2 RAID 0 array of SATA 8MB Cache drives, which would go for ~$160usd ($80 each). Also, all the raptors I've seen go for ~$120 (Newegg ), so that price of $182 seems high. Anyways, some thoughts, : peace2: Mista K6
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    I'm not talking about just S939 necessarily, NF3 250 will use both sockets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mista K6
    Socket-939 boards are supposed to come out in Q2, I'd imagine in may or june (could be wrong though). And I'd like to point something out, unless you are doing heavy file transfering or server work with that comp, raptors in a RAID array is overkill. In games you couldnt even tell the difference between that and a 80GBx2 RAID 0 array of SATA 8MB Cache drives, which would go for ~0usd ( each). Also, all the raptors I've seen go for ~0 (Newegg ), so that price of 2 seems high. Anyways, some thoughts, : peace2: Mista K6
    Yay.. finally.. Listen to the voice of reason. If you're going to RAID, then you don't need Raptors... get some decent storage space instead.

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