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    Quote Originally Posted by Yawgm0th
    Good, with Mista here this will get somewhere. :D
    :woot:

    Ah ****, I did forget video. Ok, thinking with my head on straight (was about 11:30 last night that I was typing), I can think of basically two systems that should work for that price range. First:

    First system:

    Processor - P4 2.4C $164
    Thermal Grease - Arctic Silver 5 $8
    Motherboard - Asus P4P800 Deluxe $122
    RAM - 512MB (2x256MB) of CAS2 Corsair PC3200 $138.50
    Video - Sapphire Radeon 9600XT $158
    HDD - Seagate 80GB HDD $82
    Case - Antec w/ 350watt SmartpowerPSU $66 Great case, the 120mm fan based cooling is great, but quiet. Also the PSU is very stable and powerful. Note, I'm biased against RAIDMAX like you posted amd_man, cause I've worked on two of em and both failed, so they arent great in my opinion.

    Total: $738 + $50 for an extra 120MM fan and a DVD ROM if you cant salvage it from your Compaq.

    Second system:

    Processor: 2500+ Athlon XP mobile $93, cheap, overclocks like a mother (from 1.8 to 2.5Ghz easily)
    Thermal Grease - Arctic Silver 5 $8
    Heatsink/Fan (cause stock AMD ones suck): Thermaltake Volcano7+ $18 Great cooler
    Mobo: Abit AN7 $109 Great mobo, tons of features, freat for overclocking, very fast, etc.
    RAM - 512MB (2x256MB) of CAS2 Corsair PC3200 $138.50
    Video - Powercolor Radeon 9700Pro $185 Insanely good video card, and it can overclock like hell, especially with aftermarket cooling (dyantron 1U CPU HS/F, etc)
    HDD - Seagate 80GB HDD $82 Great, quiet, fast, etc.
    Case - Antec 1080AMG $113 Great case, 5 fans = great cooling, comes with a 430watt Antec power supply, which is top notch, great deal.

    Total $738 + $50 extra for two more 80mm fans (case only comes with three) and an optical drive.

    Both are great systems. The first system will be faster data wise, as the CPU (once overclocked) will be 500MHz faster and have a 1000Mhz front side bus. It should rock for encoding and video work, but also will be great for games, especially if you want to host one online. The second system will be a better client gamer. The CPU will still be very fast, and the video will be insanely good. Also, the 430watt PSU will leave alot more room for future upgrades. So, personally, I'd go with the second system, just cause I have cable and usually play on large servers anyways. Also, the second system will be damn fast in its own right anyway. So, let me know what you think. : peace2: Mista K6
    Modified Dell 8200 Case:
    -400MHz FSB i850 Intel mobo
    -P4 Williamette Socket 478, 1.9GHz
    -768MB 16-bit PC800 RDRAM
    -MSI GF4 Ti4200 128MB @ 284/581
    -7200 RPM Maxtors: 60GB (2MB) on mobo and 160GB (8MB) on ATA/133 PCI Card
    -Creative Inspire T7700 7.1 Speaker System on an Audigy 2
    -Windows XP Home Edition SP2

    Rock on : peace2: , MiStA K6

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    Nice. :D

    But we do almost have an A64 system set up. Maybe throw in more cooling and it's done for about the same price.

    It's that same good old 9700 pro that we've linked to like ten times now (back n my old thread too). :D

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    I know you want to build it yourself, but this is THE CHEAPEST place I have ever seen to buy a PC... I have bought one of mine here before and its runs great.

    This is the Athlon 64... http://www.buyxg.com/system/a64/a64.htm
    X-Dreamer Case w/ Window
    Enermax 660w PSU
    AMD Athlon 64 3200+ @ 2.2Ghz
    Asus K8V Deluxe
    Corsair XMS 256x2 MB DDR500
    1xWD Raptor 74GB 10,000 RPM
    4x300GB WD 5400 RPM 8mb
    Ati Radeon 9800XT (440/780)
    Pioneer 8x DVD-RW
    Samsung 173v 17' LCD
    SB Audigy 2
    Windows XP Pro

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    Yes, I've seen the A64 system. The problem is, you really need more for an A64 system (currently what I'm saving towards). If you go with a skimpy case or a skimpy PSU, or a low performance video card, it just wrecks the whole system. If his budget was $800 or $850, then yah, I could build an awesome A64 system:

    A64 3000+ - $222
    ASUS KV8 SE - $135
    512MB (1 module) Kreton 3500 CAS2 - $95 (anyone ever heard of kreton? THeir 3500 modules are insanely fast, and cheap)
    Antec 1080AMG - $113
    80GB Seagate - $82
    9600XT - $158 or 9700Pro - $185
    optical drive - $35

    You really shouldnt skimp on a PSU or a case, as you can keep reusing them over and over. Hence, by a good Antec or Thermaltake, and you'll def get your money's worth. : peace2: Mista K6
    Modified Dell 8200 Case:
    -400MHz FSB i850 Intel mobo
    -P4 Williamette Socket 478, 1.9GHz
    -768MB 16-bit PC800 RDRAM
    -MSI GF4 Ti4200 128MB @ 284/581
    -7200 RPM Maxtors: 60GB (2MB) on mobo and 160GB (8MB) on ATA/133 PCI Card
    -Creative Inspire T7700 7.1 Speaker System on an Audigy 2
    -Windows XP Home Edition SP2

    Rock on : peace2: , MiStA K6

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mista K6
    Yes, I've seen the A64 system. The problem is, you really need more for an A64 system (currently what I'm saving towards). If you go with a skimpy case or a skimpy PSU, or a low performance video card, it just wrecks the whole system. If his budget was $800 or $850, then yah, I could build an awesome A64 system:

    A64 3000+ - $222
    ASUS KV8 SE - $135
    512MB (1 module) Kreton 3500 CAS2 - $95 (anyone ever heard of kreton? THeir 3500 modules are insanely fast, and cheap)
    Antec 1080AMG - $113
    80GB Seagate - $82
    9600XT - $158 or 9700Pro - $185
    optical drive - $35

    You really shouldnt skimp on a PSU or a case, as you can keep reusing them over and over. Hence, by a good Antec or Thermaltake, and you'll def get your money's worth. : peace2: Mista K6
    That Raidmax case I linked back up there is a perfectly fine case and PSU for half the price of that Antec case...

    And, IMO so what if you have to be a little under on part of the Athlon64 system, as you can later upgrade that. The A64'is more future-proof than a P4C

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    The case amd_man suggested was a bit more than mine (and much better), but Smokey's link more than makes up for it. And we sure didn't skimp out on the video. I listed the prices with different video cards (including the 9700 pro and 9800 pro). He did say "around" $700. With shipping and handling, it should be under $800.

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    Well, an A64 would be the best choice to get. Iuno, all I can say is go with it and see what happens. As for cooling in that case, its set up for you to cut out the front and install a 120mm, so that would be a good choice, as it will cool your HDD and provide plenty of cool air to the rest of the system. Make sure you get an air filter with it. So, adding it all up:

    A64 - $222
    ASUS KV8 SE - $135
    1x512MB Kreton - $95
    RAIDMAX Case/PSU - $62
    80GB Seagate - $82 (just cause its feasible, couldnt get smokey's link to work)
    9700Pro - $183

    $779

    Add $10 for a front 120mm and $35 for an optical drive, $8 for arctic silver 5 thermal grease (do it right the first time).
    $832 total

    My thing would be to lay down the cash now, cause if you skimp on video or something else, then you'll end up paying more than if you had just bought the right stuff in the first place.

    THe system will smoke, thats for sure, you'll easily see 3dMark2001SE scores of 20,000. And this'll eat any game for lunch, especially once its overclocked. You should have a hell of alot of fun with it.

    And sry for crashing the party, but you might want to wait until June to do all of this anyways, and get a Socket-939 A64 CPU and a mobo with PCI-express, that way you can actually upgrade in the future :shrug:
    THat's what I'm doing anyways

    : peace2: Mista K6
    Modified Dell 8200 Case:
    -400MHz FSB i850 Intel mobo
    -P4 Williamette Socket 478, 1.9GHz
    -768MB 16-bit PC800 RDRAM
    -MSI GF4 Ti4200 128MB @ 284/581
    -7200 RPM Maxtors: 60GB (2MB) on mobo and 160GB (8MB) on ATA/133 PCI Card
    -Creative Inspire T7700 7.1 Speaker System on an Audigy 2
    -Windows XP Home Edition SP2

    Rock on : peace2: , MiStA K6

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mista K6
    Well, an A64 would be the best choice to get. Iuno, all I can say is go with it and see what happens. As for cooling in that case, its set up for you to cut out the front and install a 120mm, so that would be a good choice, as it will cool your HDD and provide plenty of cool air to the rest of the system. Make sure you get an air filter with it. So, adding it all up:

    A64 - $222
    ASUS KV8 SE - $135
    1x512MB Kreton - $95
    RAIDMAX Case/PSU - $62
    80GB Seagate - $82 (just cause its feasible, couldnt get smokey's link to work)
    9700Pro - $183

    $779

    Add $10 for a front 120mm and $35 for an optical drive, $8 for arctic silver 5 thermal grease (do it right the first time).
    $832 total

    My thing would be to lay down the cash now, cause if you skimp on video or something else, then you'll end up paying more than if you had just bought the right stuff in the first place.

    THe system will smoke, thats for sure, you'll easily see 3dMark2001SE scores of 20,000. And this'll eat any game for lunch, especially once its overclocked. You should have a hell of alot of fun with it.

    And sry for crashing the party, but you might want to wait until June to do all of this anyways, and get a Socket-939 A64 CPU and a mobo with PCI-express, that way you can actually upgrade in the future :shrug:
    THat's what I'm doing anyways

    : peace2: Mista K6
    I think Yawgm0th had linked to a refurbished K8V for less than $135, I can't remember though. Personally I would just go ahead and upgrade, as its going to be hard to afford the new tech in May-July months unless you got a budget of over $1000-$1500 in my opinion.

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    I'll make all these links less confusing now.

    512 MB DDR PC3500 cas2.5 Kingsmax
    Seagate 120GB 7200RPM SATA HDD
    Refurbished ASUS with K8T800
    Athlon 64 3000+
    Case with 420W PSU
    Radeon 9700 Pro

    Total = $742.74 U.S. plus shipping.
    And the HDD can be downgraded a bit to save a good $30 or so.

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