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    Ok, I have a Dell and it sucks. So I need to do some serious upgrading.
    Here's what I already bought
    -http://usa.asus.com/products/mb/sock...d/overview.htm ASUS P4C800-E Deluxe
    -http://usa.asus.com/products/vga/r9800xt/overview.htm ASUS RADEON 9800XT
    -http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...156-140&depa=0 This is my case
    I also need some help on the following stuff. As for my budget I just want to get awesome performance.
    -RAM I have pc2100 i think(will this even work)
    -Hard Drive http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...144-327&depa=0
    -CPU http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...116-163&depa=1
    -HS http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...109-012&depa=1
    need a good fan with the heatsink so if you can reccomend one that would be great
    -artic silver ceramique between cpu and HS
    -maybe some other case fans
    If there's anything better that I don't know of tell me about it; I'm open to suggestions.

    P.S. I think I might be able to RMA my board still; If you think an AMD setup is better. I also intend to overclock.

    Thanks in advance

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    thats not an upgrade. its a replacement
    your gonna need quality PC3200 or PC3500, from a good make.
    for the heatsink look at the TT 7+
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    There are just so many variables to consider. It will be hard to really pin down what to get but we'll try to help out a little.

    Memory- Scrap the PC2100. It will work (probably) but not well. While PC3500 will handle most chores you throw at the new rig, you'll want to ask yourself if you have overclocking plans in your future. If so, then splurge and get the good stuff; PC4000 on an Intel rig with that motherboard will be better suited if you plan on playing. (Ah, saw the OC statement in your PS... get the good stuff!)

    Heatsink- The Volcano 7+ is good, but the Thermalright you have linked will blow its socks off. Just make sure to get a quality fan (preferably 92mm) to handle the cooling chores. This larger fan will allow for less noise and more airflow. Always a good combination. ;)

    Hard Drive- Stay away from the Maxtor, they tend to suck nuts. Most are not quite as fast as the competition and their reliability is usually very bad. I have had very good luck with both Seagate and Western Digital in terms of both speed and longevity.

    Video Board- The 9800XT is a very solid board, but if you're wanting the best of the best, take a look at either the nVidia 6800 Ultra or the ne ATi X800 series.

    Looks pretty good otherwise unless you wanna delve into water cooling or phase change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darthtanion
    There are just so many variables to consider. It will be hard to really pin down what to get but we'll try to help out a little.

    Memory- Scrap the PC2100. It will work (probably) but not well. While PC3500 will handle most chores you throw at the new rig, you'll want to ask yourself if you have overclocking plans in your future. If so, then splurge and get the good stuff; PC4000 on an Intel rig with that motherboard will be better suited if you plan on playing. (Ah, saw the OC statement in your PS... get the good stuff!)

    Heatsink- The Volcano 7+ is good, but the Thermalright you have linked will blow its socks off. Just make sure to get a quality fan (preferably 92mm) to handle the cooling chores. This larger fan will allow for less noise and more airflow. Always a good combination. ;)

    Hard Drive- Stay away from the Maxtor, they tend to suck nuts. Most are not quite as fast as the competition and their reliability is usually very bad. I have had very good luck with both Seagate and Western Digital in terms of both speed and longevity.

    Video Board- The 9800XT is a very solid board, but if you're wanting the best of the best, take a look at either the nVidia 6800 Ultra or the ne ATi X800 series.

    Looks pretty good otherwise unless you wanna delve into water cooling or phase change.
    I disagree about gettinc PC4000. It sucks. Cas2 PC3500 is faster. Also, Maxtor drives are fine when you disable the Acoustic Management ****

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    Feel free to disagree, but I'll still stand by my recommendations. High quality PC4000 will still handle aggressive memory timings and also give the ability to clock higher as a general rule. Though I did not specifically give a brand name, the concept of getting decent memory was a no-brainer (I thought).

    Disabling the Acoustic Management will still not do anything about the drives having a habit of dying an untimely death.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darthtanion
    Feel free to disagree, but I'll still stand by my recommendations. High quality PC4000 will still handle aggressive memory timings and also give the ability to clock higher as a general rule. Though I did not specifically give a brand name, the concept of getting decent memory was a no-brainer (I thought).

    Disabling the Acoustic Management will still not do anything about the drives having a habit of dying an untimely death.
    Actually I haven't heard of any problems with Maxtor's or WD's dying lately. Nothing out of normal at least.

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    Me neither. Have had several Maxtors (this comp is running of an 80GB 7200RPM Maxtor) for over a year without any problems whatsoever, despite plenty of wear and tear.
    That said, I think a 74GB WD Raptor would be a better choice, but if you really need that space....
    I'd have to agree with intel_kid on the PC4000, too. Why pay more when you're likely to get less? Not all PC4000 RAM can handle the timings as well as PC3500.

    I also think going with an Athlon64 setup would be much smarter. No reason to use a P4 when you can get an A64 as powerful as the P4 (or more powerful) for about the same or less.

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    For the RAM I will probably go with the PC3500. For the Heatsink(will this fit on my motherboard cuz my current heatsink is a crappy alluminum one, it won't even fit) probably Thermalright. I still need good fans(case and heatsink) because I'm still new to cooling so can you reccomend something.(same with the RAM)
    The Hard Drive will try WD http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...144-154&depa=1 because I do need the extra space
    I'll stick with the Intel setup for now It will cost a little much for the AMD setup, as I already bought motherboard. Oh well maybe next time AMD :D

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yawgm0th
    That said, I think a 74GB WD Raptor would be a better choice, but if you really need that space....
    I'd have to agree with intel_kid on the PC4000, too. Why pay more when you're likely to get less? Not all PC4000 RAM can handle the timings as well as PC3500.

    I also think going with an Athlon64 setup would be much smarter. No reason to use a P4 when you can get an A64 as powerful as the P4 (or more powerful) for about the same or less.
    If only the Raptor was halfway decent priced....I agree with the A64 movement, but since you've got a P4 mobo already and P4 is still cheaper.

    With the RAM, make sure it is cas2 Pc3200 or PC3500. Make sure its from a good brand to, Crucial, Corsair, OCz, Kingston, GeiL, Mushkin and others.

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    Is this a good choice?
    RAM
    http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...146-287&depa=1
    CPU
    http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...116-162&depa=1
    And how much can I overclock it or should I even buy a lower speed like 2.6GHz
    FAN(bought)
    http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...999-617&depa=1
    decided to go with this fan. Is it any good?
    HS(bought)
    http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...109-012&depa=1

    Thanks

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