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    Ok im on a tight budget... 700 or maybe alittle over to spend.

    Things I dont need.

    Monitor
    Sound Card
    Speakers / SUB
    Keyboard
    Mouse

    I have checked out www.kustompcs.co.uk and e-mailed them to come up with a spec for my needs of gaming using my budget... Gaming needs are mailey FPS such as CoD Far Cry Half Life 2 Joint Operations.

    They came up with this... What do you think can I get better ?!

    [code:1:0c44541cb8]ASUS A7N8X-X
    AMD XP 2800+
    512MB DDR400 CRUCIAL
    SAMSUNG 120GB SPINPOINT IDE HDD
    SONY 16X DVD (BLACK)
    PANASONIC 3.5 FLOPPY (BLACK)
    ATI RADEON 9800 Pro 128MB

    Built in a NEON-LIGHT CASE[/code:1:0c44541cb8]

    Price Tag - 644

    Thats price including VAT Build & Delivery.

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    thats a good setup.
    do you overclock? if you do you could save money by getting a 2500 instead of the 2800 and then overclock it.
    do you not need a CD-RW drive?
    what about an operating system?
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    Oh yeah forgot to say...

    Other things I dont need...

    OS
    DVD-RW
    CD-RW

    Already have all of them...

    So would I be better of getting the 2500 and a better case for having more fans so I can OC. And if I do whats the best CPU cooling fan for OCing. Would it also be more beneficial to get a Mobile CPU. I have heard they are good OCers and have decent speeds anyways.

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    the mobile barton is only really needed if you want to try for a really high overclock, something like 2.7ghz.
    for a good cooler basicly anything that is large copper and has a good fan. the TT V7+ is a good one.
    if you already have a CD-RW and DVD-RW then a DVDROM is not really needed. this will save a bit of money.
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    Samsung isn't a bad brand, but I would suggest getting something else for HDD. Western Digital, Seagate, or Maxtor.

    For CPU spending a bit extra for a 3000+ would be worth it, IMO. At least over here, it's only like $20 (U.S.) more for a good performance increase. You could get a Mobile 2600 instead, but I think you would be guaranteed more speed with a desktop processor.

    In any case, if you want to overclock, getting some high-quality PC3500 RAM instead of PC3200 would be smart. Get Geil, OCZ, Corsair, etc with CAS latency of two. Get two identical sticks for dual channel.

    You should also get the A7N8X-E Deluxe instead of the A7N8X-X. Quite a bit of improvement for not much more.

    Lastly, you should order supplies and build yourself. There's no way you can get as much for your money by ordering a pre-build system. It's not that hard to build a system, and it will save money while providing a better system.

    I have those kind of out of order. Budget may be an issue, so the priority of what you should do goes like this:

    1. Build it on your own
    2.A7N8X-E Deluxe instead of the A7N8X-X
    3.Two identical sticks of PC3200 RAM for dual channel
    4. Mobile 2600 or deskop 3000 instead of 2800
    5.PC3500 instead of PC3200
    6.Different brand HDD

    You're also going to need a good quality 400W power supply. I wouldn't get a prebuilt system anyway, but if I were getting one I certainly wouldn't order one that didn't say the wattage of the PSU.

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    The PSU dont bother me cause I would take it out for a spare as I have a 500w PSU in the machine im on now... I would then stick the original 350w back in this heap of poo and keep the other for spare.

    I had already looked at the A7N8X-E Deluxe and came up with my own spec but I have read that both these mobo are poor for OCing. They both have locked North bridge and you cant change the voltage past a certain point.

    Your right I could build myself... But i get worried when it comes to attaching heatsinks and fans to the CPU. I would not use the original fan thats for sure if I was OCing. But if I did build myself I would have abit more cash to spen on better components.

    EDIT - If anyone knows a real good step by step guide possibley with some helpful pics on building an entire system from scratch please tell me so I can save some cash and build an even better system for a great price.

    EDIT 2 - Also it would be nice to know names of good brands of components and possibley the best budgets parts to aim for.

    Thx people... :D

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    The A7N8X-E Deluxe is fine for OCing. It's somewhat limited in the voltages, but you can still get it up pretty high.
    I guess you might consider getting an Albotron KX18D PROII or an ABIT AN7.

    For HDD getting a 74GB Western Digital Raptor would probably be best for performance. It's quite expensive, though. Probably best if you get an 80GB Maxtor, Western Digital, or Seagate.

    For RAM PC3200 at CAS2 will do just fine. Getting PC3500 would be better for OCing, but is uneccesary if you can't afford it. You should get at least two 256MB PC3200 CAS2 RAM sticks. Try to get Geil, Mushkin, OCZ, Corsair, or Kingston. Make sure you get either a dual pack that comes with two sticks or get the same stick twice.

    For processor an Athlon XP 3000 would be quite good, but the overclocking abilitiesof a Mobile 2600 would likely give you better bang-for-buck performance.

    Your PSU and case should be fine. Try to get one with nice airflow if you don't already have a free case. Good airflow and room for several fans...

    Get something like a Thermaltake for your processor HSF. you will want a thermal compound like Arctic Silver 5 before putting on the heat sink.

    For video card, get a 128MB Radeon 9800 Pro. It's a great card and should fit into your budget.
    I think you would be able to get all that for what you were thinking about spending. I'm not positive, though. Hardware is significantly cheaper over here.
    I can't help you with specific places to purchase from, but I think the hardware I have listed is just about what you'll be looking for.

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    Ok been surfing and checking prices and putting a spec down... 3 main places to purchase from so if I did delivery charges would be minimal.

    What you think of this one...

    Q-TEC 6050 Case (Silver) 41
    INFO
    AMD Athlon XP 3000+ OEM 84.68
    INFO
    Zalman CNPS7000A-Cu Ultra-Quiet CPU Cooler - Retail 37.01
    INFO
    Abit NF7 v2.0 nForce2 (Socket A) Motherboard 46.94
    INFO
    Corsair 512MB DDR Value Select PC3200 Kit (2x256MB) 79.31
    INFO
    Maxtor DiamondMax Plus9 Serial ATA 120GB 8MB Cache - OEM 67.56
    INFO
    Aopen Chameleon DVD-ROM 16x 3 Colour 26
    INFO
    Mitsumi Silver Floppy Drive 8
    INFO
    Sapphire 9800 Pro 128mb Atlantis 159
    INFO

    Total price of components - 549.5
    Delivery would be small charge.

    Is there anything else I would need. As I have said in previous posts I have OS monitor PSU etc etc.

    Thx... :D

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    The link for the processor doesn't work, but everything else looks good. You won't need much else if the motherboard comes with cords. The only thing you need is some Arctic Silver thermal compound for your processor.
    Here's some instructions for Arctic Silver:
    http://www.arcticsilver.com/arctic_s...structions.htm

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    Strange all the links work for me even when im at work on a different PC.

    Well anyway the mobo should have all leads for it as its a standard retail product.
    I think thats a pretty good setup for the price and I even have money to spen on other things... Or I could upgrade the RAM to 1gig or the mobo to 3200 but I think the RAM would be more beneficial.

    Anyways thx for the help if you have some more advice on this matter please post away I will keep an eye on the thread while I work out all the odds and ends to buying and building.

    Thx :D

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