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Thread: About to purchase a gaming rig, need some advice




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    hello all, im new to this message board but i figured there are some very knowledgeable people that read this. Im getting a gaming rig (mainly 3-d fps like half-life2, far cry, etc) and im in a bit of quagmire as to my processor selection. Below I have to two templates, the AMD 3400+ route or the PE 3.4ghz route. The price on these two setups differ by about $50 so I'm not concerned with money in this situation. Let me know what u prefer in this situation, and/or comments u have on my setup. If u have any links benchmarking Pe3.4 vs AMD athlon3400+ i'd appreciate it.

    Matt

    A. AMD Template

    ATC-201 Aluminum Mid Tower
    Enermax Whisper 450 Watt Power Supply
    Microsoft Windows XP Home
    Asus K8V Deluxe for Athlon64 Socket 754
    AMD Athlon64 3400+
    Zalman CPU Cooler for Athlon64 and FX-53
    Corsair TwinX 1024MB 3200LL-PT (2/512mb)
    GeForce 6800Ultra Extreme 440MHz Core
    Seagate ST380023AS 80GB 7200RPM SATA
    Seagate ST380023AS 80GB 7200RPM SATA
    Sony 16X DVD-ROM
    Plextor PX712A DVD/RW
    Creative Labs Audigy 2 ZS
    3Com 56K V.90 Internal Modem

    B. Intel template
    ATC-201 Aluminum Mid Tower
    Enermax Whisper 450 Watt Power Supply
    Microsoft Windows XP Home
    Asus P4C800-E Deluxe i875P
    Intel Pentium 4 3.4 GHz 800
    Zalman Silent P4 CPU Cooler
    Corsair TwinX 1024MB 3200LL-PT (2/512mb)
    GeForce 6800Ultra Extreme 450mHz Core
    Seagate ST380023AS 80GB 7200RPM SATA
    Seagate ST380023AS 80GB 7200RPM SATA
    Sony 16X DVD-ROM
    Plextor PX712A DVD/RW
    Addonics digidrive II USB Card Reader
    Creative Labs Audigy II ZS Pla

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    do you intend to overclock the system?
    if you do i recommend the P4 if you dont i recommend the A64.
    i would recommend you get XP Pro over Home.
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    I would suggest you wait for socket 939 processors and motherboards, You will have much better upgrading options than with a socket 754 motherboard or a P4. They will be out tomorrow, so it shouldn't be much longer untiul you can buy them.

    But if you don't want to wait, then I would go with metallicat666's suggestion. The A64 should be a better gaming processor at stock but the P4 would tie it or beat it in almost anything if you overclocked the two.

    Here's a good article to sum it up for you:
    http://www.anandtech.com/cpu/showdoc.html?i=2002&p=3

    But again, waiting for socket 939s would be better. :2cents:

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    What is socket 939 motherboard? Is it for intel or AMD? what is the benefit of socket 939, upgrade potential?

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    It's for AMD processors (the processors aren't out yet either, so don't go buying anything just yet). You will have virtually no upgrading options (just the A64 3700) for socket 754, but all future A64 (FXs too) will be made for socket 939.
    http://www.anandtech.com/cpu/showdoc.html?i=1985

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    Well thanks for letting me know about the 939. I am now pretty sure Ill go with the Athlon 64 3800+. How do these do as far as ability to overlclock vs. the PE? I have never overclocked before, how difficult is it?

    Also, will the motherboard the comes with the 3800+ be basically the same as the PE 3.4 ghz? For example, if i upgrade my video card in a few years will it be a simple swap out? I am little scared going of AMD, ive been a pentium buyer ever since I had a comp. Will everything be ok in AMD land?

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    The 3800 is a great choice based on what I've seen. :thumb:
    A P4 will most likely overclock better (don't know that though) then a regular A64, but probably not enough to make up for the superior performance in games with the A64. But an A64 FX (which is quite expensive) comes with an unlocked multiplier, so it should have a lot more overclocking potential.

    Just search this site and/or Google to learn more about overclocking. It's fairly simple. :cheers:

    Except for the pin configuration (socket 939) and chipset, the motherboard won't be much different from a P4 mobo. It's simple to upgrade the video card. I wouldn't worry about getting an AMD over an Intel processor.

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    Yawgm0th the A64 FX is totally unlocked but the A64 will still allow multiplier manipulation below the one designated for it so you can still get higher FSB speeds (this has always been the case with both).

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    lol, dam Yawgm0th, i bet you are really getting tired of having to tell people to wait for the 939 sockets and mobos to come out. this is my second or third day on the forum and i have seen you say it atleast 20 times. i'm sorry, lol.

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    I'm sure everyone is getting just as sick of it as I am.
    :cheers:
    But it's necessary. At this point, getting a socket-754 or even a 940 mobo would be a waste of a couple hundred dollars in the long run as you would have next to no upgrading options in the long run.
    :2cents:

    Besides, if I weren't saying that, I would just be giving out the same advice of a socket 754 mobo and processor for almost everyone that asks. That's what I did with mose people before socket-939 was coming close.

    Whatever.
    :cheers:

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