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    Default Re: im goin to build a gaming system but i need some help what i need?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mutineer
    I like your choice with the AIW though. ;) It won't be the greatest for gaming, but the AIW cards are cool.
    I don't, considering this is a gaming rig and you can get a GeForce 6800 for the same price. Unless you absolutely need the AIW (and if you don't nknow what AIW is, then you don't), get a GeForce 6800.
    I'd recommend the Elsa GeForce 6800. More than twice the performance at the same price.

    Actually, just about everything else needs to change, too...

    Like he said, you got a socket 754 processor, but a socket 939 motherboard. Instead, get:
    Chaintech VNF3-250
    Retail Athlon 64 3000.

    You've also got PC2700 RAM. That won't do...
    Get a stick of this PC3200 if you aren't going to be overclocking. This Kingmax PC3500 is cheaper and will be better if you overclock.

    I wouldn't recommend getting a case with a PSU from any company other than Antec or Thermaltake (might be a few other companies that make reliable case PSUs, though). But I wouldn't recommend getting one at all.
    This Black Raidmax case is quite, and you can get it in different colors if you want. If you want something with a little more eye candy, choose something without a PSU or one from Thermaltake or Antec.
    For a PSU, this Thermaltake 420W will easily be enough for your system, and is incredibly cheap.

    You can get the burner and the drive if you want, but I'd recommend using whatever is in your current system, unless they're much worse. Saves money for other parts. Hell, I don't really know your budget, so you might be able to get a socket 939 system instead of the stuff I listed.

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    Default Re: im goin to build a gaming system but i need some help what i need?

    i dont got a budget if its good cost im goin to get it LOL

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    Default Re: im goin to build a gaming system but i need some help what i need?

    How about this setup is it a good running gaming system? and i want a fast video card the one i pick dont look good but i want tv out and that other stuff on the video card too just like that one i pick out

    Case: RAIDMAX Black 10-bay Case, Model "268WBP" -RETAIL $26.00

    Power Supplies: Thermaltake Silent PurePower, 420W ATX power supply.UL, CSA, TUV, CE Approved. Intel Pentium 4 Compliant $36.00

    CD/DVD: Sony DVD+/-RW Dual Layer Drive (Black), Model DW-D18A, OEM $76.00

    CPU: AMD Athlon 64 3000+, 512KB L2 Cache 64-bit Processor - Retail $175.00

    Motherboard: CHAINTECH "VNF3-250" nForce3 250 Chipset Motherboard for AMD Socket 754 CPU -RETAIL $75.00

    Video Card: ATI AIW RADEON 9800PRO Video Card, 128MB DDR, 256-bit, DVI/CATV/VIVO, 8X AGP, Model "ALL-IN-WONDER 9800 PRO" -RETAIL $275.00

    Harddrive: Maxtor 120GB 7200RPM IDE Hard Drive, Model 6Y120P0, OEM Drive Only $86

    Memory: Mushkin Blue Line 184 Pin 512MB DDR PC-3200 - Retail $92.00

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    Default Re: im goin to build a gaming system but i need some help what i need?

    Well I think this Elsa X800 Pro has everything you need, but this Powercolor X800 Pro has a great package and surely has everything you need. Both will perform better than a GeForce 6800, and much better than a 9800 Pro.

    If you still have money to spend (no budget?), get two sticks of that RAM. You could also replace the RAM with some better stuff:
    Two sticks of this Corsair XMS PC3200 would be quite good.

    If you still think you can spend more, change the board and CPU:
    MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum and Athlon 64 3500. If you still are willing to spend more (although I think it's wasteful beyond this point), you could get an Athlon 64 3800 or Athlon 64 FX-53.

    You should probably get a different HDD, too. This Seagate 120GB SATA drive will be faster than an IDE drive like you chose and its warranty lasts five times as long. It's only a few bucks more, too.

    Also, I'd recommend getting a third-party heat sink for your processor. You don't need to, but it will increase the life of the CPU, and you'll appreciate it if you ever decide to overclock. I'd recommend this.

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    Default Re: im goin to build a gaming system but i need some help what i need?

    but my budget on the motherboard & cpu need to be around $400 bot everything esle is ok

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    Default Re: im goin to build a gaming system but i need some help what i need?

    here what i got now and u think the motherboard and cpu will be fine for gaming the ones i got in the list, but how many fans can i put in this to keep it cool

    Case: RAIDMAX Black 10-bay Case, Model "268WBP" -RETAIL $26.00

    Power Supplies: Thermaltake Silent PurePower, 420W ATX power supply.UL, CSA, TUV, CE Approved. Intel Pentium 4 Compliant $36.00

    CD/DVD: Sony DVD+/-RW Dual Layer Drive (Black), Model DW-D18A, OEM $76.00

    CPU: AMD Athlon 64 3000+, 512KB L2 Cache 64-bit Processor - Retail $175.00

    Motherboard: CHAINTECH "VNF3-250" nForce3 250 Chipset Motherboard for AMD Socket 754 CPU -RETAIL $75.00

    Video Card: ATI AIW RADEON 9800PRO Video Card, 128MB DDR, 256-bit, DVI/CATV/VIVO, 8X AGP, Model "ALL-IN-WONDER 9800 PRO" -RETAIL $275.00

    Harddrive: Seagate 120GB 7200RPM SATA Hard Drive, Model ST3120026AS, OEM $90.49

    Memory: Mushkin Blue Line 184 Pin 512MB DDR PC-3200 - Retail $92.00

    third-party heat sink: Thermaltake SilentTower 4 in 1 CPU Cooler for Intel P4 478 & Socket T, AMD K7 & K8, with Heatpipe Cooling, Model "CL-P0025" -RETAIL $44.99

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    Default Re: im goin to build a gaming system but i need some help what i need?

    Off the top of my head, I believe the case comes with two fans and has room for five more.

    That motherboard and CPU will be fine for gaming, but that video card is just a waste of money. The X800 Pros I listed have most of the same stuff (they just don't have AIW in the name). They are just a lot more expensive (about $140 more for the Elsa). They're worth the money for gaming. The 9800 Pro is barely a mid-range card these days; you don't want it for this system. If it's just TV-out you want, the GeForce 6800 I listed has TV-out and is the same price. If you need DVI and VIVO, the Elsa X800 Pro is perfect for you. If it means you have to cut the cooler, downgrade the RAM a bit (I can find much cheaper stuff that isn't much worse), and go down to an A64 2800 instead of a 3000 just to afford it, do it. An AIW 9800 Pro for that price is just a waste of money.

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    Default Re: im goin to build a gaming system but i need some help what i need?

    does this look better setup for gaming? do i need to add anything esle?

    Case: RAIDMAX Black 10-bay Case, Model "268WBP" -RETAIL $26.00

    Power Supplies: Thermaltake Silent PurePower, 420W ATX power supply.UL, CSA, TUV, CE Approved. Intel Pentium 4 Compliant $36.00

    CD/DVD: Sony DVD+/-RW Dual Layer Drive (Black), Model DW-D18A, OEM $76.00

    CPU: AMD Athlon 64 3000+, 512KB L2 Cache 64-bit Processor - Retail $175.00

    Motherboard: CHAINTECH "VNF3-250" nForce3 250 Chipset Motherboard for AMD Socket 754 CPU -RETAIL $75.00

    Video Card: ELSA ATI RADEON X800 PRO Video Card, 256MB GDDR3, 256-Bit, DVI/VIVO, 8X AGP, Model "FALCOX X80 PRO ViVo" -RETAIL $410.00

    Harddrive: Seagate 120GB 7200RPM SATA Hard Drive, Model ST3120026AS, OEM $90.49

    Memory: Mushkin Blue Line 184 Pin 512MB DDR PC-3200 - Retail $92.00

    third-party heat sink: Thermaltake SilentTower 4 in 1 CPU Cooler for Intel P4 478 & Socket T, AMD K7 & K8, with Heatpipe Cooling, Model "CL-P0025" -RETAIL $44.99

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    Default Re: im goin to build a gaming system but i need some help what i need?

    Just to be safe, get this Thermaltake 280W PSU. I know I said the 420W would be enough, but you might need more, and it's likely you will if you ever upgrade this in the future.

    Otherwise, it looks good. That will be an amazing gaming rig. The only things that would be worth changing are the drives, and if you need a dual-layer DVD burner and 120GB of HDD space, it's fine. Also, you don't need a floppy drive, do you?

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    Default Re: im goin to build a gaming system but i need some help what i need?

    Semprons are not 64bit, defeating the entire purpose of going 64bit. And are generally a bad idea even for socket a.
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    tt aquariusII liquid cooled/ arctic silver ceramique
    asus a7n8xe-dlx
    thermaltake xaserIII lanfire
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    seagate sataII 250gb/seagate 7200rpm 160gb ide
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    logitech mx518/ logitech wingman rumble
    2x samsung 955df 19"/ canon i960
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    mushkin 550w

    opteron 146 @ 2850 (10x285)
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