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  1. #11
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    Default Re: Should I upgrade my PC ?

    I doubt it will drop that much, even over here. I'd suggest you stick with a regular 6800 if you can't afford the GT by then. It might drop as low as the 500 dollar range (more likely 600 or 700, though), but anything less would be highly unlikely. How much are Athlon 64 and socket 754 motherboard for you?

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    Default Re: Should I upgrade my PC ?

    Ill look up newegg ( singapore has no mass retailers )

    Supported CPU: Socket 754 AMD Athlon64 Processors
    Chipset: VIA K8T800 + VT8237
    FSB: 800MHz
    RAM: 2x DIMM for DDR400/333/266 Max 2GB
    IDE: 2x ATA 133 up to 4 Devices
    Slots: 1x AGP 8X, 5x PCI
    Ports: 2xPS/2,2xCOM,1xLPT,1xLAN,2xUSB2.0,Audio Ports
    Onboard Audio: C-Media 5.1-Channel AC97 Codec
    Onboard LAN: VIA VT6103 10/100Mbps Fast Ethernet
    Onboard SATA/RAID: 2x SATA 150, RAID 0/1
    Form Factor: ATX

    That should be around 110 singapore dollars for me. Thats the cheapest. The most expensive one is this one :


    Supported CPU: AMD Athlon64 Processors
    Chipset: NVIDIA nForce3 250
    RAM: 3x DIMM for DDR400/333/266 Max 3GB
    IDE: 2x ATA 133 by nForce3 250, 2x ATA 133 by GigaRAID IT8212 RAID 0/1/0+1/JBOD up to 8 Devices
    Slots: 1x AGP 4X/8X, 5x PCI, 1x DPS
    Ports: 2xPS/2,2xCOM,1xLPT,2xLAN,6xUSB2.0(Rear 2),Audio Ports
    Onboard Audio: Realtek ALC850 7.1-Channel Codec
    Onboard LAN: Marvell 8001 GbE + ICS 1883 10/100Mbps
    Onboard SATA/RAID: 2x SATA by nForce3 250, RAID 0/1/JBOD; 2x SATA by Sil3512, RAID 0/1
    Onboard 1394: T.I. IEEE1394b controller, 3 Ports
    Form Factor: ATX

    That will cost near 300 SGD and I prob wont buy it.

    Should I buy one with HyperTransport Bus for the FSB ?

    Supported CPU: Socket 754 for AMD Athlon 64 Processor
    Chipset: SiS755 + SiS964
    FSB: Hyper Transport
    RAM: 2x 184-pin DIMM for DDR400/333/266/200 up to 2GB
    IDE: 2x UltraDMA 133 up to 4 devices
    Slots: 1x AGP 8X, 5x PCI, 1x CNR
    Ports: 2xPS/2,8xUSB(Rear 4),1xCOM,1xLPT,1xRJ45,Audio ports
    Onboard Audio: Realtek ALC655 6-Channel AC'97 CODEC
    Onboard LAN: Realtek RTL8201BL 10/100Mbps Fast Ethernet PHY
    Onboard SATA/RAID: 2x SATA 150, RAID 0/1
    Form Factor: ATX

    or should I take this ?

    Supported CPU: AMD Socket 754 Athlon64 Processors
    Chipset: VIA K8T800 + VT8237 CD
    FSB: 1.6GHz Front Side Bus
    RAM: 2x DIMM for DDR400/333/266 Max 2GB
    IDE: 2x ATA 133 up to 4 Devices
    Slots: 1x AGP 8X/4X, 5x PCI
    Ports: 2xPS/2,2xCOM,1xLPT,8xUSB2.0(Rear 4),1xLAN,Audio Ports
    Onboard Audio: VIA VT1616 6-Channel AC97 Audio
    Onboard LAN: VIA VT6103 10/100Mbps Fast Ethernet
    Onboard SATA/RAID: 2x Serial ATA, RAID 0/1
    Form Factor: ATX

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    Default Re: Should I upgrade my PC ?

    Im also looking to buy a new HDD. By selling all my parts I dont think I need to buy a new PC ( or i might lol ). Im hoping to buy a 250 gb hdd 7200 rpm should be ok , cost about 270 dollars now.

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    Default Re: Should I upgrade my PC ?

    As for processors I dunno which one to buy or if I should even get a new processor ( if I buy a mboard that only supports Athlon 64 poccessors then i guess i gotta get a new 1 ).

    btw how do I check my PSU ??

    Ill definitely be destroying my 2 sticks of pc2100 ram and getting pc3200 ones ( 2x512 prob )

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    Default Re: Should I upgrade my PC ?

    I'd suggest you get the Chaintech VNF3-250. It's one of the best socket 754 motherboards there is and is very cheap. You will certainly want to get this and a new Athlon 64 (maybe a 2800 or 3000 since you're on a fairly tight budget) because your current CPU (and anything you could upgrade it to, which would be wasted money anyway) can't even begin to take advantage of a video card like the GeForce 6800, and you'll get fairly bad performance in most games even with the 6800. Upgrading your RAM with that CPU and motherboard would also be pointless because the CPU can't take advantage of that, either. If you are going to upgrade, you'll need an all-out motherboard, CPU, RAM, and video card replacement.

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    Default Re: Should I upgrade my PC ?

    ah ok :D

    Do you know of any boards that might drop to the same price at around december ( beginning of dec ) ? ( Which are more powerful of course).

    Could you also recommend a system that can take advantage of a GFX 6800 ?

    Btw I checked up those AMD athlon processors. They seem to operate at a slower running frequency than my intel 2.4 ghz but are more expensive ! How will those processors improve my com ? Am I supposed to OC them ?

    AMD Athlon MP 2800+ "Barton", 266MHz FSB, 512K Cache Processor - Retail
    (limit 5 per customer)

    - Specifications -

    Model: AMD Athlon MP 2800+
    Core: Barton
    Operating Frequency: 2.13GHz
    FSB: 266MHz
    Cache: L1/64K+64K; L2/512K
    Voltage: 1.65V
    Process: 0.13Micron
    Socket: Socket A
    Multimedia Instruction: MMX, SSE, 3DNOW!, 3DNOW!+
    Packaging: Retail Box (Heatsink and Fan included)


    This is pretty expensive ( 190 US dollars ) , but it operates at only 2.13 ghz , slower than my processors 2.399 ghz.


    Btw can u tell me which products would u recommend ? I see u very often in this board so you must be an expert in these matters :D

    Taking into account that prices will drop at the end of the year.

    I need 1) New Mboard
    2) New processor
    3) New Graphic card
    4) New sticks of ram ( 2x512 pc3200 )
    5) A HDD with 250 GB

    Ill be selling out the rest of my components. How much do u think these will sell for ( in USD ) ??

    2x256 mb ram pc2100
    Intel i845GBV A
    Intel 2.4 ghz ( no HP )
    80 GB HDD
    GF4 Ti4400 ( 128 mb 4x AGP )

    would help if ya give the average price I have to pay for the new stuff :) ( after I sell my stuff ) .

    Thx if u can help !
    Last edited by Benzoid; 09-09-2004 at 12:38 AM. Reason: Adding something

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    Default Re: Should I upgrade my PC ?

    Clock speed is one of the few factors in how fast a processor is. I won't get into it, but think of it this way: An Athlon 64 2800 at a clock speed of 1.8GHz will outperform a Pentium 4 at a clock speed of 2.8GHz in most application, including gaming. The Barton you listed and your 2.4GHz Pentium 4 won't even come close.

    The motherboard I listed will be about $75 U.S. and may drop in price slightly
    An Athlon 64 2800 will be about $145 U.S. and will most likely stay at $145
    A couple sticks of 512MB PC3200 or PC3500 will be about $160-$200 U.S., depending on the timings and brand you choose. This will likely stay the same.
    A 250GB hard drive will go for about $150. However, I would suggest getting a 200GB drive as it will go for about $100. I wouldn't pay $50 for an extra $50 GB when my first two sets of $50 are each getting 100GB.

    Assuming you get the 200GB drive and a regualr GeForce 6800, you should be able to get all of this for well under $800 U.S. With enough price drops (but don't count on it), it could be under $700 U.S. Getting a single stick of RAM to start with and another one later would be one way to get everything if you can't afford it when you want to buy everything.

    I'm thinking your current stuff will sell for a total of over $300, but I may be wrong.

    One other thought: You could keep your hard drive and get a 160GB. That gives you 240GB, costs under $90, and you can even take advantage of the two drives to gain more speed by placing your programs on one drives and files and operating system on the other. This will save you a lot of money and it will be faster and have about as much space as a sinlge 250GB drive (or a 200GB, for that matter). Hell, you could still get a 200GB drive and keep your 80GB. It's only about $10 more for another 40GB.

    For hard drive, I recommend Seagate. It's generally about the same price (and quality) as Western Digital and Maxtor, but the warranty lasts 5 years.

    For RAM, look for something like this. It's just value RAM. Go for something with CAS latency 2.5 or 2 with PC3200 or PC3500 speeds. There are certain brands I would recommend and some I wouldn't, so I would have to know the specific RAM to know whether or not it sucked. The idea is to get PC3200 or PC3500 for around $80-$90 U.S. without getting something that totally sucks (value doesn't necessarily mean crappy).

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    Default Re: Should I upgrade my PC ?

    Thanks alot ! Just one more question , how do u fit 2 HDDS into 1 comp or is it possible all along ? Just wanted to know im noob on HDDs lol

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    Default Re: Should I upgrade my PC ?

    You'll see if you open it up. You can fit up to four IDE drives on almost any motherboard, which are your regular CD drives and hard drives. Your new motherboard will support SATA and IDE, so you could have two SATA drives (unless the board has more SATA channels than I remember) and four IDE drives. For example, you could have two CD drives, and four hard drives. Just make sure you put your hard drives and CD drives on different channels as a CD drive will slow down a hard drive on the same channel. Don't worry, you'll get it all figured out when the time comes.

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