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    Default Re: Hardware questions

    There's still a 9800 Pro...

    If money is an issue, you still have a lot of ways you can cut price. Again, you can get much cheaper RAM that won't perform much worse. You can still get a cheaper case. The HSF isn't really necessary. The fans aren't that great (I have one, and trust me, 5 will be noticably loud) and just add to the price.

    Trust me, you want at least a GeForce 6800 for this.

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    Ok, this now raises four questions. One, would two 256 sticks work better than a single 512? Two, what fans do you recommend, I plan to slightly oc, so i need some air flow? Three, how many fans? Four, what is the best HSF for under like $35?


    thanks.

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    One: Not really, and 512MB gives you more room for RAM in the future
    Two: you should get a case that comes with two or three fans and not buy any extras, but the Speeze will do fine if you just buy a couple.
    Three: Maybe 5 total, but 3 will be more than enough. Don't go crazy about it.
    Four: Probably the Thermaltake Venus 12.
    Last edited by Yawgm0th; 09-17-2004 at 11:01 AM.

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    heres the case:






    and link: http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProduc...factory=BROWSE

    It has room for the 2 in the back, 1 on top, 1 on the side panel, and 1 in front. It comes with a fan on top and on the side. I was gunna get 3 more and replace the stock one on top blowing in so it goes directly to the PSU. Put one in back blowing out, and replace the one on the side blowing in on the cpu. and the whaever with the extra 2 stock ones.

    What 512 stick would you recomend? something like the corsair value select?
    Last edited by Nessumsar; 09-17-2004 at 11:15 AM.
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    Go ahead and leave the fans already included in place. They look to be lighted anyway so will give your enclosure a more personalized touch. You can just do a couple of fans, one intake for the front and one exhaust for the rear.

    Oh, and don't even think of using the top fan for intake. Heat rises so let nature work for you instead of against you. The top fan is made for exhausting heated air, leave it.

    As to the memory, even the Corsair value select is decent so yes, it would work for you.
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    Default Re: Hardware questions

    Once again, thank you for your advice. And after another makeover, this is what its looking like:

    Aspire X dreamer case
    Thermaltake silent pure power 420 psu
    2x thermaltake 90mm with 80mm adapters
    chaintech vnf3-250
    AMD 64 bit 2800
    Artic silver 5
    thermaltake Venus 12
    corsair value select 512
    WD 80gb sata
    Liteon 52x32x52x16

    Still dont know about the video card. the 6800 is a bunch of money. :\
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    It's not that hard...

    Change the case. If a case that you think looks cool is affecting the hardware this much, it's got to go. Depending on which Aspire X Dreamer case you are referring to (there seem to be a lot), it could cost welll over $40. I've been looking at the Raidmax black 10-bay case for $26 at Newegg. There are a bunch of different colors, but they are all the same case for about $26. That saves some money.

    You can downgrade the HSF to the Venus 7. Not as powerful, but a lot cheaper. you can still OC with it.

    I'd suggest you take Kingmax PC3500 over any Corsair value select. Either this saves money, or costs slightly more, dependind on which Corsair. The really cheap stuff is Cas latency 3. PC3500@CAS 2 = much better than PC3200@CAS 3.

    See if you can find a cheaper combo drive. Lite-on is good, but there are other good ones. you could even consider getting a refurbished one. There are a couple refurbished at Newegg of the same model.

    Cut the excess fans. Get the cheapass Speeze ones or something similar. One or two is enough, with the Aspire or with the Raidmax. The Raidmax comes with room for 5 added fans and comes with two side panel fans. I'd say get one fan for the front and one for the back and you'll have good cooling.

    Get an IDE 80GB drive. SATA is much faster, but if you really need to save a few bucks, this is an option that you probably won't shed any tears over in the future.

    I know those seem like small cost drops, but they should add up to over $80 together, even if you ignore one of them. You can get a Geforce 6800 for $273 (although the eVGA I would recommend is $283) and the Sapphire 9800 Pro (which is what you should get if you were getting a 9800 Pro, no question) is about $195. So it should only take $80 to $90 in cuts to fit the 6800 in.

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    Default Re: Hardware questions

    Ok, so what do I get If I spend the extra $100 on the 6800?
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    Let's see... I'll assume you get the eVGA for $183 that comes with a free copy of FarCry. With your 9800 Pro, you might be running that at 1024x768 at around medium settings. With the GeForce 6800, you can probably run it at 1600x1200 or maybe 1280x960, with high quality settings and maybe some anti aliasing. The game will look okay on the 9800 Pro, but it will look amazing on the GeForce 6800. It will also get higher frame rates, which means the game will play more smoothly and look more realistic.

    Let's say you buy Doom 3. On your 9800 Pro, you'll run Doom 3 at 1024x768@High Quality, perhaps with some anti aliasing as well. That's assuming you overclock it to about 9800 XT speeds (which isn't guaranteed). On the GeForce 6800, Doom 3 will run at 1600x1200@high quality with ease. It will look pretty cool on the 9800 Pro, but it will be the most amazing thing you've ever seen on a computer with the Geforce 6800. Again, you will probably recieve much higher frame rates, even with the more demanding resolution.

    You'll see this trend with most games. You will be running them at much higher resolutions, with higher settings, and higher framerates. In fact, the 6800 is so much better than the 9800 Pro, that the Athlon XP system you were looking at it would perform better in games than the A64 system if it had the 680 and the A64 system had the 9800 Pro. It's that important.

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    wow, dang, now im tossed. wait longer and get the 6800 or wait shorter and get the 9800. well, I guess waiting is waiting, Ill just have to save more for the 6800. Only $555 more to go... Thank you guys again for the help.
    VNF3-250 nforce3, A64 2800, 512m PC3500, WD 80gb sata, 52x32x52 samsung. Soon to have a 6800 Woot!

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