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    Default New AMD 64 System in Canada

    Hi Guys:

    I am not up on the latest advances in systems in the AMD line.

    I was hoping you guys could help me out in component selection from a few Canadian Retailers listed. Newegg isn't up here but I am sure I can get what I need.

    I am looking to spend around $1700.00 Can for a system with a LCD Monitor if possible. I have never attempted building my own machine but would like the experience.

    I would like to build a fast machine yet still upgradeable. I have read a few of the other posts which favour the MSI boards. I guess like most I want the most bang for the buck.

    Here are a few dealers I have available here.


    http://www.tigerdirect.ca/indexca.asp?

    http://www.anitec.ca/

    http://www.hltechnology.com/

    http://www.ncix.com/

    I appreciate your help.

    Thanks

    Dan

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    Default Re: New AMD 64 System in Canada

    For the most bang for the buck get a A64 socket 754 possably a 3400 or 3700, but this will limit upgradeabliity as the 754 line will see no new processors. If you would like upgadeabilty go for the 939 lines, 3500 would be best for you as you dont want to spend all your budget on a FX processor. If you get a 939 system get the Neo2 Platnium by MSI, get the normal Neo for the 754 line.
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    Default Re: New AMD 64 System in Canada

    I'm just going to assume you aren't overclocking or aren't going to deisgn the system with overclocking in mind...

    Unless you have a real need for an LCD (ie space or mobility), I'd stick with a CRT. The prices are much lower for monitors supporting higher resolutions and higher refresh rates. A decent gaming LCD will set you back quite a bit. But if you aren't into gaming, then the prices are close enough that you could still consider an LCD.

    I'd also recommend the MSI boards, though there are cheaper boards in socket 754 that may have all the features you need. But I'd get a socket 939 for this system anyway. The MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum would be good.

    For the processor, a 3500 or 3200 would be smart. Anytihng higher would be too pricy.

    For RAM, go for 2x512MB sticks. Corsair Value Select with CAS 2.5 would be fine, but any CAS 2 RAM would be even better, if the budget allows.

    I'd go for a Seagate SATA drive of whatever size you want for your hard drive.

    Any cheap ATX case with fans or room for them will do. Choose based on price and what you like. It's probably best you don't go for one with a power supply, depending on the brand.

    A 480W Thermaltake PSU should be perfect for this system.

    If you are a gamer, get a GeForce 6800 or 6800GT, depending on the budget. A 6600GT would be good if you aren't a huge gamer, but still play a few games. A Radeon 9600 or 9550 would be best if you just want to be able to play games, but don't care much if they run at high framerates and high resolutions.

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    Default Re: New AMD 64 System in Canada

    I built my 754 system for just under $1500 Canadian and I am mad that I didn't wait for a month, prices have dropped a lot in both 754 and 939 motherboards and processors.
    So you can build a nice system for the money you have. But if you decide to go full out and get top of the line memory and video card, you probably won't have enough money left over for a nice LCD, I prefer 17" or 19" CRT's anyway. They take up more room sure but as Yawgm0th pointed out you get better refresh rates and higher reslolutions.
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    Default Re: New AMD 64 System in Canada

    Hi Guys:

    I appreciate your comments! The components below are from the NCIX site. I haven't overclocked before but am curious what you could get out of the processor without really pushing it.



    Motherboard: MSI K8N NEO2 Platinum NFORCE 3 Ultra S939 AGP 5PCI Sata 1394 sound 1000Lan

    Processor: AMD Athlon 64 3200+ Processor S939 2.0GHZ 512KB L2

    Case:Lian-LI aluminum PC-60H1S 18 IN Case 4X5.25 2X3.5 5X3.5 W/O PS

    Powersupply: Thermaltake TT-420AD 420W Power Supply Dual Fan Temp. Controlled

    Ram: 2 Sticks of OCZ 512MB PC3200 DDR400 Cas2 3-3-6 184 Pin W/Copper Heat Spreader

    Video Card: eVGA E-GEFORCE 6800GT 256M TV-Out & DVI AGP W.Doom 3

    Harddrive: Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 200GB SATA Hard Drive 8MB 7200RPM 8.5MS OEM

    DVD Drive: Pioneer DVD+-RW 16X4X16 Dual Layer+R 4X CDRW 32X24X40 INT IDE WO/SW OEM

    Monitor BENQ FP931 19c Inch LCD Panel 16 MS 0.294MM 1280X1024 Analog Digital Silver /Black

    The price before taxes is around $2200.00 Can. but if I go for a CRT Monitor could bring it down closer to what I want to spend.

    Yawgm0th is there different brands of GEFORCE cards or is the one I have listed the one you speak of ?

    Any recommendations for a CRT monitor?

    Thanks again

    Dan

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    Default Re: New AMD 64 System in Canada

    I should add I am not a big gamer.

    Dan

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    Default Re: New AMD 64 System in Canada

    Viewsonic has some nice ones, that won't kill your budget either, I am looking at two 19" Viewsonic's at the monent as well as my semi-****yone for my current system that will be three monitors, takes a lot of space... So if you considering a multi-monitor setup in the future then it may be worth looking at some LCD's. Viewsonic is not as nice as sony or panisonic but is worth the price since one 17" is about $230 or so depending where you go... Good stuff.
    My Current Rigs:
    Antec P180, OCZ Powerstream 520W, DFI nF4 SLI-DR Expert, AMD X2 4400 w/XP120(2.6GHz@1.45v), 2x1GB OCZ Platnium PC3200, BFG 7900GT@592/800(1.6), WD 250GB SATA, Maxtor 120GB IDE, LG DVD/CD Combo(black), Sony DRU-810 DL DVD Burner(black)
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    Default Re: New AMD 64 System in Canada

    I would most definately go with an Athlon64 3500+ if I were you...

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    Default Re: New AMD 64 System in Canada

    YES, get the 3500+, now that I have my 754 3200+ I am sorry that I didn't go 939 and get the 3500 instead.
    My Current Rigs:
    Antec P180, OCZ Powerstream 520W, DFI nF4 SLI-DR Expert, AMD X2 4400 w/XP120(2.6GHz@1.45v), 2x1GB OCZ Platnium PC3200, BFG 7900GT@592/800(1.6), WD 250GB SATA, Maxtor 120GB IDE, LG DVD/CD Combo(black), Sony DRU-810 DL DVD Burner(black)
    3DMark01:25379, 3DMark03:19746
    3DMark05:9294, 3DMark06:5340

    Raidmax Cobra, Fortron PN-400W, ASUS A8N-E(nF4 Ultra), X2 3800 w/AMD heatpipe cooler, 2x 512MB Crucial Balistix, ATI X300, WD 250GB IDE, Samsung 16x DVD/RW

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    Default Re: New AMD 64 System in Canada

    If you don't want to really push the CPU as much with overclocking, just get a 3500 like they said. If you can, get one that's advertised as having a Winchester core or a 90nm core (or both, depending on the site).

    If you aren't a big gamer, don't get a 6800GT (and that is the right brand). A Radeon 9600 would probably be enough, and I think anything above a 9800 Pro or 6600GT would be a waste for you.

    Everything looks okay, though personally I'd never get a Lian Li case, because they are extremely expensive.

    You're also going to want a bigger PSU. Socket 939 systems that don't even overclock are known to have problems with PSUs that small. Maybe if you just got a Radeon 9600 and didn't overclock it would be fine, but personally I'd just pay a few bucks more to get a Thermaltake 480W and noy have to worry about it or choose hardware in the future differentyl because of it.

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