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    Exclamation Purchasing a Video Card, need some input on a few things.

    In a couple of weeks I plan on purchasing a video card. There are some things I have been thinking about and I'm wanting some input on. Here is my setup:

    CASE:
    http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduc...129-146&DEPA=1

    OPTICAL 1:
    http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...131-239&depa=1

    STORAGE 1:
    http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...144-319&depa=1

    MOTHERBOARD:
    http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...128-244&depa=1

    MEMORY:
    <A href="http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-141-182&depa=1" target=_blank>http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...141-182&depa=1

    CPU:
    http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...103-484&depa=1

    SOUND:
    <A href="http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproductdesc.asp?description=29-102-178&DEPA=0" target=_blank>http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduc...102-178&DEPA=0


    COOLING:
    1 or 2 PCI Slot Fan Blowers

    How much power are my components consuming and how do I know how much power I will have left over to spare for a high end video card?


    I know someone on a site had this case and stuck a 6800GT in it w/ the 300WT PSU and it works fine from what he says, but the card recommends a 350WT PSU or greater.

    How much power do the video cards consume, and which one would I be able to stick in my system?

    Here are some links to the video card I'm looking at:

    Last edited by Xeno326; 01-21-2005 at 11:10 AM. Reason: Cleaned up post and added comp configuration

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    Default Re: Purchasing a Video Card, need some input on a few things.

    I am using a 420W PSU with my system similar to yours(little bit more power hungry though) You will need at least a 400W-480W PSU to handle your system and card...
    As for the choice in cards go with the 6800GT, more FPS in most games, and it is cheaper than the X800 series. The X800 has less piplines than the 6800GT anyway and its more expencive than the 6800GT as well.
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    Default Re: Purchasing a Video Card, need some input on a few things.

    Well if you checked the link for my case, I'm pretty much stuck w/ a 300WT PSU and can't go higher than that. so what should I do? how can you calculate a power hungry system? i run pretty much the basics and no extra features except the 2 leds that are powered in the front of the case, and thats pretty much it.

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    Default Re: Purchasing a Video Card, need some input on a few things.

    Well I'm not exactly sure what you were trying to accomplish by going with a case that small and expecting its power supply to give out all the nessary juice to a very hungry GPU and the system you speced out.

    You will most likely have to get a bigger case and use that one for another system, or find some way to use a power supply from the outside of the case and make it look good.(Been done before)

    IMO, if you plan on keeping your current configuration you can look on Antec's site to see if they have a higher wattage version of that PSU, or you can get a less needy GPU.
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    Default Re: Purchasing a Video Card, need some input on a few things.

    Hey I was just doing that and checked back for a reply lol, well my other case was 300WT as well and it was a mid-tower and if I had the money then I would of purchased an x800 for it, but looky here I went on a review site of the case and this person stuck in a "Chaintech AA6800" in the case, and if I'm not mistaken what I see on newegg is a required 350WT PSU, well this guy had other PCI cards in this thing as well. Look here is the link.

    http://www.htpcnews.com/main.php?id=aria_4

    what do you think? this reviewer also played doom 3 and all that for hours and the system temp was around 55C max.

    Maybe I can get away w/ a normal x800 or 6800GT?

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    Default Re: Purchasing a Video Card, need some input on a few things.

    BINGO! quote on quote from the reveiwer


    "As for voltage testing form the power supply I did not have any of my trusty Abit boards handy to try things out with. I did not experience any problems even after adding a HDTV tuner card and additional hard drive in to the mix. Everything ran as expected and I was very happy with the performance of the little 300 watt PSU in this case. The manual for the GeForce 6800 recommends a 350 Watt PSU just to give you an idea of the power requirements on the card alone."

    That's awesome! :D a 350WT Required card ran well in the system w/ other PCI cards in it that demanded power.

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    Default Re: Purchasing a Video Card, need some input on a few things.

    I may just go w/ the x800 Sapphire Pro, I went to the nvidia site to compare specs on ATI's card and Nvidia's cards, and they are very discrete w/ their info on their cards, nowhere can I find how many pipelines the cards are running, but the x800 runs at 16 pipelines and is the same price if not less than the 6800GT

    I dunno let me know what you think and any info you got where I can find this additional info out about the Nvidia cards.

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    Default Re: Purchasing a Video Card, need some input on a few things.

    X800 Pro is 12 pipelines, however it consumes much less power than a 6800GT, and seeing as you've limited yourself to a 300w PSU, its a good choice for that reason. However if you used a 480W PSU (for example, Thermaltake), you could have the 16 pipeline 6800GT instead which is an even better choice

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    Default Re: Purchasing a Video Card, need some input on a few things.

    # of Pipelines and Frequency
    X800=12(I think) ~$389 (400/700)
    X800pro=12 ~$400 (475/900)
    X800XT=16 ~$470-$550 (500/1000)
    6800=12 ~$270-$285 (325/700)
    6800GT=16 ~$385-$435 (350/1000)
    6800Ultra=16 ~$500 (400/1100)
    The GT would be your best choice as far as proformance and price go, give it a try and if it does not work, take it back and get whatever X800 you want(they consume less power as stated before)
    The picture came from www.legionhardware.com
    As you can see, the X8** series has many options, the X800XL being the most atractive for the price. Although I am not sure if it is going to be available in AGP format for quite some time if at all.
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    My Current Rigs:
    Antec P180, OCZ Powerstream 520W, DFI nF4 SLI-DR Expert, AMD X2 4400 w/XP120(2.6GHz@1.45v), 2x1GB OCZ Platnium PC3200, BFG 7900GT@592/800(1.6), WD 250GB SATA, Maxtor 120GB IDE, LG DVD/CD Combo(black), Sony DRU-810 DL DVD Burner(black)
    3DMark01:25379, 3DMark03:19746
    3DMark05:9294, 3DMark06:5340

    Raidmax Cobra, Fortron PN-400W, ASUS A8N-E(nF4 Ultra), X2 3800 w/AMD heatpipe cooler, 2x 512MB Crucial Balistix, ATI X300, WD 250GB IDE, Samsung 16x DVD/RW

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    Default Re: Purchasing a Video Card, need some input on a few things.

    awesome thanks for the replies, but I doubt if I purchased it from newegg they will allow me to send it back and trade it for another, I probably would have to trade it in for the same exact one which can suck. Know of an online store that I should purchase these cards from that will allow me to purchase one, if I don't like it send it back and get a different one?Thanks for the info so far.

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