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  1. #1
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    Default Your Opinions Please?

    I am getting ready to buy a prebuilt system to replace one that died. I have another gig of ram and a DVD burner to put in it. What do you guys think? Not for gaming - just all around kick ass performance.

    JNCS Best Value Computer System based on Asus A8N-VM CSM Motherboard

    Services:

    Full assembly
    Burn-in Tested

    BIOS flashed to most recent stable version
    Cables routed and tied
    Excellent heavy-duty packaging
    All original boxes, CDs, manuals included (build)
    Warranty:
    3-year warranty all system components (3-year)
    Case:
    Antec Sonata II Case with 450 watt power supply. Be sure to use "none" option for power supply as this case comes with power supply. (cs-an-sonata2-450)
    Power Supply:
    None. Use Power Supply Included with Case (Choose if using Antec Sonata2 Case) (ps-included)
    CPU:
    AMD Athlon64 X2 (Dual-core) XP3800+ (pr-am-a64-x2-3800)
    Memory:
    1024mb Kingston Memory DDR-400 (2x512mb) (me-ki-32-512 x2)
    First Hard Drive(s):
    Seagate 80 Gb SATA (NCQ) (hd-st-sa-080-8-ncq)
    1st CD/DVD Drive:
    Lite-On CD-ROM 52x (Black) (rm-lo-cd-black)
    Video:
    nVidia 6150 On-board, Dual output, DVI and VGA (va-onboard)
    Operating System:
    Microsoft Windows XP Pro (Installed, includes CD & Key)
    - Includes complete load of Operating System with Service Pack 2 (sw-ms-xppro)

    Thanks for your time!

    Sirwriter

    (By the way...haven't posted in a loooong time. The info at the bottom is obsolete!)
    Athlon XP 3000 @ 200FSB x 11.5, Asus A7N8X Deluxe, 512 Corsair XMS 2700 in single channel, 2 x 80 WD @7200 w/8 meg, VisionTek TI4600 o/c'd to 325/750, Antec case w/6 fans & 430 watt psu, Plextor 40/12/40, HP CDRW, Creative DVD, Win XP Pro - SP1

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    Default Re: Your Opinions Please?

    looks pretty nice. though if you have 1x 1gb module, when putting it in, your memory will work in single channel mode. which is considered performance loss. if you have 2x 512mb, there's another twist. i don't know if it's true cause i didn't test it myself but on some site a guy tested setups of 2x 1gb and 4x 512mb memory modules. 4x 512 was somehow slower than 2x 1gb.

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    Default Re: Your Opinions Please?

    4 sticks of memory will always run slower in an AMD64 system because the onboard memory controller requires a 2T command rate for it to work right. Probably a 5-10% bandwidth/performance loss, but nothing you could really see in day to day use. What is the price of this system? This stuff has gotten very cheaplately and that system you listed leaves no room for any upgrades at all.
    GIgabyte GA-990FXA-UD3
    AMD FX8120 @ 4GHz
    Patriot 1866MHz EL series 2X4GB DDR3
    Powercolour HD 6970 2GB w/XFX 8800GT 512MB Hybrid PhysX
    Creative X-FI titanium HD w/Technics class A 300W amp and tower speakers
    PC P&C 500W PSU
    2TB Seagate
    Coolermaster 690II w/Corsair H100 tucked under the hood

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    Default Re: Your Opinions Please?

    Onboard video?

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    Default Re: Your Opinions Please?

    he said that system wasn't for gaming. so onboard fits alright

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    Default Re: Your Opinions Please?

    Do you have to have a M-ATX board? That ASUS board is very anti-overclocking and does not offer alot of support for 4 dimms. Sure ASUS says it can, but there are alot of reports it won't do it properly. Better off getting a full sized board with more features for the same price since this board is also not that cheap.
    Last edited by casecutter; 07-31-2006 at 04:34 AM.
    GIgabyte GA-990FXA-UD3
    AMD FX8120 @ 4GHz
    Patriot 1866MHz EL series 2X4GB DDR3
    Powercolour HD 6970 2GB w/XFX 8800GT 512MB Hybrid PhysX
    Creative X-FI titanium HD w/Technics class A 300W amp and tower speakers
    PC P&C 500W PSU
    2TB Seagate
    Coolermaster 690II w/Corsair H100 tucked under the hood

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    Default Re: Your Opinions Please?

    Quote Originally Posted by fuflo
    he said that system wasn't for gaming. so onboard fits alright
    I know he did, but still....

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    Default Re: Your Opinions Please?

    Did some looking and if you need to have a M-ATX board get the Biostar Tforce6100 as it is the highest rated board for the small form factor with lots of overclocking options AND a PCI-E 16X slot.
    GIgabyte GA-990FXA-UD3
    AMD FX8120 @ 4GHz
    Patriot 1866MHz EL series 2X4GB DDR3
    Powercolour HD 6970 2GB w/XFX 8800GT 512MB Hybrid PhysX
    Creative X-FI titanium HD w/Technics class A 300W amp and tower speakers
    PC P&C 500W PSU
    2TB Seagate
    Coolermaster 690II w/Corsair H100 tucked under the hood

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    Default Re: Your Opinions Please?

    The Asus A8N-VM CSM does have a 16X PCI-E slot so you can upgrade the graphics and it also has overclocking options in the BIOS (though I didn't see any overclocking mentioned in the post) I can't see why you guys have a problem with it (I'd take an ASUS mainboard over a Biostar one any day).

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    Default Re: Your Opinions Please?

    The ASUS mainboard has no voltage adjustments for CPU, memory or chipset so it would be a mediocre overclocker at best. The Biostar has a full featured bios that allows a full range of voltage adjustments. And I own an ASUS board now and I am not too happy with the overclocking at all for a high end board.
    GIgabyte GA-990FXA-UD3
    AMD FX8120 @ 4GHz
    Patriot 1866MHz EL series 2X4GB DDR3
    Powercolour HD 6970 2GB w/XFX 8800GT 512MB Hybrid PhysX
    Creative X-FI titanium HD w/Technics class A 300W amp and tower speakers
    PC P&C 500W PSU
    2TB Seagate
    Coolermaster 690II w/Corsair H100 tucked under the hood

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