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  1. #1
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    Default buying pc

    So this guy is offering me a second hand pc

    2500 xp chip out of a laptop and its over clocked to a 3200 xp it can overclock much further he said, not tryed to the limit.

    XP 3200+, 160 gig Hard drive,1024 Megabytes,DDR Dualchannel ram,16 X Dual layer DVD-+ RW,Radeon 9700 pro,128 MB Graphics card Extreme edition,sound blaster audigy sound card 5.1 surround sound,17" Compaq CRT monitor,Keyboard and Optical mouse. Windows XP and lots of other software installed. Bargain PC for multi task or gaming.

    for 275

    its a gigabyte ga 7n400 lan and theres 1 gig of ram 4 x 256mb sticks running in dual channel mode...so equivalent to 2 gig.

    so how many years in the running will this machine last me. i don't know much about this mobo but say if i wanted to add extra stuff do you think it would be possible to detach those components and reattach them onto a new motherboard?

    for that value is it worth it? it was built a year ago so i was told.

    or i might decide to get this one brand new all built up and add a few things

    * AMD Athlon 3800+ X2 Dual core
    * 1GB DDR2 RAM 1 GB (installed) / 4 GB (max) - DDR SDRAM - 400 MHz - PC3200
    160GB
    350watt psu
    DVD-RW
    9-in-1 USB card reader
    6 USB 2.0 ports (two in front)
    Microsoft xp Media Centre
    on-board 11g 54Mps wireless adapter build inside
    mini tower
    Cache Memory L2 Cache
    Storage Controller Serial ATA ; IDE
    Hard Drive 1 x 160 GB - standard - Serial ATA-150
    NVIDIA GeForce 6100
    Sound card - 7.1 channel surround
    Network adapter - Ethernet, Fast Ethernet, Gigabit Ethernet
    Serial ATA ; IDE
    mouse/keyboard
    349.97

    what do you think?

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    Default Re: buying pc

    4 x 256MB in dual channel is not at all the equivalent to 2GB. Dual channel just makes it faster.

    An Athlon XP is already outdated by modern standards. It will still game and still do most tasks okay, but it's low-end at best and will only get worse as time progresses. None of its hardware except the hard drives and CD drives will be usable in other systems. I wouldn't take it.

    I can't think of any good reason to get Media Center Edition. Go for Home or Pro. A GeForce 6100 will do for now, but you'll definitely find yourself wanting a video card sometime in the near future, in which case the 350W power supply won't do. However, I'm guessing that's a socket 939 system. You'll need a socket AM2 or 775 system if you want any kind of upgradability.

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    Default Re: buying pc

    I agree with yawgm0th, thats a great deal, what connection speed does the HD have?
    Mobo...............Asus P5N-SLI (NF570)
    RAM................2 GB Kingston DDR2/667 CL5
    GPU................Evga e-GeForce 7900GTO 512MB
    CPU................Intel Core 2 Duo E6300 2MB L2
    HDD................Hitachi 160 GB IDE
    Disk Drive.........Sony DVD+-RW 16x IDE
    PSU................BFG 650W (on sale for 80$, 80$off!!)
    OS..................Windows XP Home SP2
    Sound card......Sound Blaster x-FI xtreme music
    Overclocked somewhat w/Arctic cooler freezer 7 pro
    other info: saitek eclipse red backlit keyboard
    cheap micro innovations wireless optical mouse
    logitech x-530 speakers (5.1)
    18" viewable KDS CRT monitor (I'll upgrade when it dies)
    about 8 80MM fans and I sleeved most of the cables
    It would be quiet but I have 1 noisy Vantek that blows like a turbine. A crappy generic case which with cammo paint and holes all over.



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    I don't believe Yawg said it was a great deal....hence the "I wouldn't take it"..and I agree, it's an outdated system with limited upgrade potential. If any 3d gaming will be done then you'd be better off finding/building one with more recent parts.

    Did the guy tell you 256x4 was the same as 2 gig?? If so, he's lying and I'd suggest not doing any business with him.
    Case - CoolerMaster Wavemaster
    Monitor - 37" Sceptre NagaIII @1080p
    PSU - PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad
    MB - Asus P5K Deluxe
    CPU - Intel C2D E4300 (overclocks to come ASAP)
    GPU - 7800GTX 256 @ 608/1440 volt mod
    RAM - 2x 1gig Corsair "Dominator" PC2 8500
    Sound - Creative X-FI elite pro
    Klipsh THX certified 4.1
    Sennheiser HD-650 (naked)
    Headroom Micro amp w/desktop mod/Cordas HPI cables
    HDD - 1x 74gig raptor for OS
    3x 74gig raptors in RAID0 for games
    1x 500gig WD for swap file/storage
    Cooling - Appogee CPU/GPU blocks
    3/8"ID 5/8"OD Tygon tubing
    3x 120mm BIE radiator
    Swiftech MCP655 317GPH pump
    Vantec Stealth fans throughout

    Laptop - Dell XPS 2
    CPU - PM 2.0
    GPU - 7800 GTX Go @ 440/1300
    RAM - 2 Gigs DDR2
    HDD - 60G 7200rpm + 160G external
    Sound - Audigy2 ZS Notebook, Sony EX51 budphones

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    I think the 1st comp is a deal b/c it comes with all you need to work or play at a good price for all the components including 5.1 speakers it would work as a media player but not a very good gamer. I would personally go with a PC with core 2 etc b/c of the performance for the $$ is greater but for a full pc with all that stuff its a good deal.
    Mobo...............Asus P5N-SLI (NF570)
    RAM................2 GB Kingston DDR2/667 CL5
    GPU................Evga e-GeForce 7900GTO 512MB
    CPU................Intel Core 2 Duo E6300 2MB L2
    HDD................Hitachi 160 GB IDE
    Disk Drive.........Sony DVD+-RW 16x IDE
    PSU................BFG 650W (on sale for 80$, 80$off!!)
    OS..................Windows XP Home SP2
    Sound card......Sound Blaster x-FI xtreme music
    Overclocked somewhat w/Arctic cooler freezer 7 pro
    other info: saitek eclipse red backlit keyboard
    cheap micro innovations wireless optical mouse
    logitech x-530 speakers (5.1)
    18" viewable KDS CRT monitor (I'll upgrade when it dies)
    about 8 80MM fans and I sleeved most of the cables
    It would be quiet but I have 1 noisy Vantek that blows like a turbine. A crappy generic case which with cammo paint and holes all over.



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    Default Re: buying pc

    939 is not bad, currently its just a fast as AM2, but has ddr ram.
    imho it will last, performance-wise, untill AMD get out a new architecture for their CPU's, or significantly tweak the current one, but then, that IS just my opinion! thee are still some very fast and overclockable 939 chips around.
    and by the way, the athlon xp's will not clock much further than 3200 speeds.
    System Specs:
    AMD athlon 64 3200 venice @ 2.4ghz
    Asrock Dual-939SATA2
    Sapphire Radeon X800GTO2 chip r430 @ 480mhz core/540mhz mem with 1.6v vcore
    1gb Corsair XMS TwinX PC3200 timings 2-3-3-6 at 400mhz
    250gb Hitatchi deskstar T7K500 SATAII disk
    160gb samsung spinpoint PATA disk
    Asus 1608P2 DVD+/-RW Dual Layer
    Unbranded 500W PSU single 17A rail
    Innovatek and Asetek Watercooling (triple fan radiator)
    LOTS OF METAL

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